No scientific evidence that this drug works at all. Tests actually show the opposite. However, Trump is up on his podium pushing it like a crack dealer, whispering and all. What's up with that? Then he goes on to say to use a Z-Pak. He has no clue and he is giving medical advice. Dangerous....





Check this out. He's asked about ventilators and he says "whistleblowers" instead of ventilators. He's so consumed about anything but the coronvirus. All he cares about is himself. It's crazy.



More nonsense, saying everything is "flawless" while berating a journalist.

A clueless dickhead. Thanks Trump voters.

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I was right.

And while they were talking about the pandemic models he makes that stupid crack a about his relationships with models.

He does not lead by example, nor is he capable of doing so.


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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

I am just so glad we have a president that was smart enough to fire Andrew Dice Clay handling a major pandemic.

Serious shit is going down and it's still all about him.

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I was right.

He gives himself a ten out of ten. The level of self delusion is permanent.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Again, I am fairly Conservative but The Donald is a total New York City Dick Head.

And sorry, I just Could Not vote for Hillary. I had a senior White House staffer personally tell me that Hillary is the biggest CUNT they had ever met.

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Dora Hates You

The U.S. had a program - PREDICT - that identified lethal viruses abroad to prevent their spread to the U.S..

It had found 1,200 viruses (and 160 coronaviruses) in 10 years.

It was actively working in China.

Two months before the Wuhan outbreak, Trump shut the program down.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Ding is this an apology or an excuse? What's going to be your excuse for voting for him again?

Edited: 04/05/2020 at 09:40 AM by HAPDigital

Trump: "The professionals did the models. I was never involved in a model, but... at least this kind of a model."

Hardee har har. So funny. So presidential.
What a joke.

He's laughing to himself when he says it. Fuckin nut job.

Trump is the Corvair of the political world.

Unsafe at everything.

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It's Dingpatch making excuses for supporting Trump again. Only silver lining to all this is that only dotards would follow medical advice from King Dotard.. so perhaps we are witnessing Darwinism in action.

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

That is being very disrespectful to the Corvair. I know Nader did a hit on them but they were pretty fun to drive and no worse than the swing arm VWs of the day.

In any case I'd rather have a Corvair (or a AMC Pacer even) than this thin skinned Cheeto who makes everything about him.


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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

is it really any of your ffffffing business who a person votes for and why? the ffffing thought police. jeeez

Ding, cheater wants you to vote for Trump. Just think about that for a moment. FK does too. Think about it....

Totally incompetent and reckless.


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-white-house-01306286-0bbc-4042-9bfe-890413c6220d.html

The CDC says you're full of shit!

http://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus...erapeutic-options.html

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

This just in- staring at the sun inoculates oneself from COVID- that's why Trump never got it! Definitely try this tomorrow- save yourself!

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

FK the town fool...


Via his link:

There are no currently available data from Randomized Clinical Trials (RCTs) to inform clinical guidance on the use, dosing, or duration of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis or treatment of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Although optimal dosing and duration of hydroxychloroquine for treatment of COVID-19 are unknown


Due to higher in-vitro activity against SARS-CoV-2 and its wider availability in the United States compared with chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine has been administered to hospitalized COVID-19 patients on an uncontrolled basis in multiple countries, including in the United States. One small study reported that hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination with azithromycin reduced detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in upper respiratory tract specimens compared with a non-randomized control group but did not assess clinical benefit [7]. Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are associated with QT prolongation and caution is advised when considering these drugs in patients with chronic medical conditions (e.g. renal failure, hepatic disease) or who are receiving medications that might interact to cause arrythmias.

Edited: 04/05/2020 at 08:19 PM by HAPDigital

Trump getting angry when press asks Fauci about Hydroxychloroquine. He wont let Fauci talk. Total shit show. Yelling at press like a mad man.

Trump: "What do you have to lose by taking it (an unproven drug)?"

American Medical Association president: "You could lose your life."

Watching that is embarrassing.
He may be declaring himself to be a wartime president, but he ain't so let us all be grateful this isn't a real shooting war with a significant state enemy.

Fauchi deserves a frikin medal for his patients with the cheeto for sure, but mostly for hanging in there and doing the right thing for our nation and not BS'ing us.

Cheeto's aid irritated with Fauci for not totally agreeing with El Jefe cheeto and tries to argue science-y stuff with a real scientist/Doctor.
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Edited: 04/06/2020 at 02:59 AM by Bamboo

A new low on a place where the lows were beyond our imagination last week.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Let Trump keep talking. His poll numbers are dropping by the day.

But for God's sake, don't listen to him.

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What do you have to lose?

Your life.

>>" You could lose your life," Harris said. "It's unproven. And so certainly there are some limited studies, as Dr. Fauci said. But at this point, we just don't have the data to suggest that we should be using this medication for COVID-19."<<. From the head of the AMA.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

That's the thing, no one can force you to take it. If you or your kids get a serious case, forbid the docs from administering it. Very easy thing to do progs. All the same to me.

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If the focus is put on something that might work as opposed to something that does work, might that become an issue? That's the point.

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It would be if there was anything that "does" work. But, by your exacting scientific clinical trial standard, nothing has been shown to work. Nor will anything be shown to work in the near future by that standard. Clinical trials can take years. So, if you get seriously ill with this and will not accept a treatment that hasn't been proven by rigorous clinical trials, you will get no treatment at all. Again, that is fine with me. More available for the intelligent people.

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I'm not saying don't use it. I am saying don't put all your eggs in one basket.

See, this is why Trump always loses in the end. He puts his faith into this "maybe" answer, then goes full-bore. If it doesn't work and people die, he becomes the focal point of the blame. Poor politics really, but then again, the man is an idiot, so I would expect nothing less.

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Edited: 04/06/2020 at 08:37 AM by Cole

No one dies from trying this. At worst, it doesn't help. Doesn't make it worse or anything. Something that might work is better than nothing, which is essentially what you guys are advocating. Guess Cuomo is a smarter variety of prog. They are using it like it's going out of style in NY. And lo and behold, the hospitalizations are far below what was predicted. Of course that could be attributable to the models being wrong. Model are often wrong, you know.

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Drinking Windex might work. We know you Trumpists like dishwasher pods. Give it a shot, right? Who knows, could save a life even though there is no evidence to prove such.

Do I take my "Quinn" before or after blow drying my nostrils?

theglide on point with Quinn delivery being an important part of the GOP twitler supporter zeitgeist.

"Quinn" and absinthe cocktails all the rage with the villages dotards.



Edited: 04/06/2020 at 09:16 AM by Greensleeves

In particular, the cardiac aspects are serious. Anyone with an arrythmia like atrial fibrillation (AF) or atrial flutter (AFl) is more susceptible to bad stuff.

Chloroquine, and also Z-pack (which some trials are using together) both have the tendency to cause "QT prolongation" (lengthening the duration of the Q-R-S-T) portion of the cardiac cycle. Excessive lengthening can lead to a rhythm called "Torsade de pointes" that can be fatal unless treated immediately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsades_de_pointes

Many patients with AF or AFl are already on rhythm control drugs that can also prolong QT unless they are always dosed and administered correctly.

The combination of all 3 (chloroquine, Z-pack, and an antiarrythmic) is classified as an extremely MAJOR interaction risk.

In general, most docs now know this, and the study-related articles I've seen also reflect this, but there are cases where it could slip through the cracks.


Tpap is correct about the length of clinical trials. Nothing is likely to be "definitively good" any time soon. When you're breaking new ground, the trend is for anecdotal evidence and "related evidence" to provide ideas for clinical trials, and that's pretty much where we are now.

As of last night, the WHO website listed 306 trials getting underway to address COVID-19. Some sound pretty whack, but at least they're running in parallel and may yield useful results faster than a serial approach.

I would go deep with a Hail Mary if I were that deep in the woods.


Edited: 04/06/2020 at 02:16 PM by RegularJoe

In short, even if it does work, it's not going to work for everyone.

On the true medical side, there are already some positive results coming out of medical labs. Let's hope one is the real deal.



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That's true of a lot of therapies. In this one, researchers think they are seeing different patterns of response related to obesity, age, and possibly even blood type.

Herceptin, a miracle drug in the breast cancer world, was almost abandoned because of unpredictable results. It wasn't until researchers discovered the subtle differences between receptor positive/negative aspects of different breast cancer cells they they identified the right recipients for it.

When targeted to the right patients (with the right type of tumor), it works very well. There might be a similar scenario with the coronavirus. I've heard of 8 different (but still very similar) strains of the virus. Researchers would do well to identify it to that level when possible.




Indeed!

if you were sick; I suppose you wouldnt try it because trump is trying to bend the curve, help the world and dont take it when you get sick

if you were sick; I suppose you wouldnt try it because trump is trying to bend the curve, help the world and dont take it when you get sick



Sick burn bro! Did you hire a screen writer for that one?

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I was right.

For normal people, let me point out something that will show you what this is about. Note that the exact same people who are arguing against chloroquine are the ones who were vociferously arguing for the use of pot. Pot, of course, hasn't been tested for anything. So why are they so against this drug on the basis that it hasn't been tested? Because they don't want a drug to solve the problem. They want to maximize the death toll so as to get rid of Trump. That is how sick these people are. Don't vote for these crazy sickos.

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Tpap, please show where I am an advocate for pot. Please post a link. I'd love to see it.

Tpap is so caught up in his lies and fabrication, nothing new here. Typical clown work...

Not only that, but nobody is saying that we shouldn't try Chloroquine, we should, but we shouldn't be focused on it, considering it isn't a cure.



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I was right.

it's the lawyer in him. Paid liar once, now it's just his natural state

LOL he is not a lawyer

Winning post there, folks.

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He might be referring to tpap's boyfriend

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GOP:

Gaslight
Obstruct
Project

Just wanted to get in one more shot at the progs before this thread drops off of the front page. Two lessons here. First, progs are stupid. Second, they are more than willing to see their fellow Americans die to get at Trump. Very despicable people.

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Cannibis has been used by billions of people for thousands of years with very little detrimental side effects. I hope this drug works miracles for the coronavirus. But investigate further. There are people who don't want to take it even for it's anti-malaria properties due to side effects. And the Zpack is no different, look up C. diff.

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Nope. I have always been a critic of those that claim pot is some kind of miracle drug and that it is perfect because it is "all natural". I have written on here more than once that most of them are just users that are trying to rationalize their recreation by making out like pot is something special. Anyway, I was skeptical of the early claims about chloraquine because people were making out like it was going to be some kind of covid panacea. I still am skeptical on that front. The first study linked was an open study that didn't offer up controls and had too small a sample size. Now that there are a lot of parallel studies running we are getting a picture of how it may work and also where its limitations are going to be.

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Still waiting for the pot advocacy links.

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Funny thing is, for a surfing sight, you'd think you would see a lot of it. I don't think I've seen one pro pot post.

Tpap just winging it as usual.

Haha. Trying to change the subject now. They were advocating against a life saving treatment solely because Trump was pushing it. What scum. PS. You find your own pot links, you lazy bastards. That's not my job.

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You brought up the pot pabby. You pulled the de-rail because you didn't like the direction the RegularJoe and Cole had taken the thread.

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LOL you can't because there are none. You're just making crap up. Clown business as usual.

this thread will be bigger than trump goin down, happy fudge will be in despair

Nah, I and events put this thread to rest. Showed progs for the idiots they are, again. They will move on to new stupidity and I will move on to highlighting that stupidity.

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If by events you mean increasing death rate, then sure. lol

Pattycakes in full effect.

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I was right.

Took my dose of "Quinn" today, feeling strong and invinceable, you?

There have been a couple of "pot is a miracle" people here. They aren't the people pabs is arguing with about this issue though.

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Of course, we wouldn't have those studies running now if some whacko hadn't first thought to step outside the box and give it a try.

I didn't realize that it wasn't so whacko until I started digging in the real literature away from the blogs and the hype machine. There are a fair amount of data about hydroxychloroquine and the previous SARS coronavirus. One thing seems certain, folks like my Dad probably can't go anywhere near the stuff because of cardiac issues.

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I've had two surgeries for my own arrythmias, and am currently on (but tapering off) one of the meds that's totally contraindicated with 'quin and Zpack, so I'm following this as closely as time allows.

Recent 'anecdotes' include success with plasma/antibodies donated from people who have recovered, a growing suspicion that ventilators are not the right answer for all critical patients (and a very wrong answer for some), and IV administration of certain vitamins and minerals.

As doctors learn COVID-19 is not behaving like traditional pneumonia/flu infections and ARDS, and as they also face depleted supplies, they're resorting to MASH-style meatball-medicine and hoping something good sticks.

The best they can do in the present is "disseminate" (i.e. publish w/o controls or peer review) what worked and didn't work for them. Although inconsistent controls will have a detrimental impact on statistical validity, the averaging process from larger numbers of independent, anecdotal results will filter some of that out. I assume that evolving process provided some guidance into the 4 therapies the WHO recommended for further study.

Sadly, there was a lot of inconsistent or just-plain-wrong information (particularly about transmission and infectious periods) leading to incorrect guidance from the medical community. Many of those who practice in the field of medicine were making assumptions based on common sense, training, and experience with similar diseases, that were not quite right for COVID-19.

Mixed and rapidly outdated information is still circulating. Our best bet is still to listen to scientists, but lean toward the most cautious side of their recommendations, since the science on this isn't yet mature enough to speak accurately about much of it. Hindsight will be 20/20, and hopefully provide guidance for similar-but-different issues (medical, economic, and social) in the future.

Way too factual, making too much sense, not political enough but thanks for the important info. 3/5

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

This is anecdotal. People who took this might very have been getting better anyway providing a false correlation. The president, who really gets this stuff, is pushing a cure out of a desperate need for things to go back to where they were. He's not pushing this because he believes the scientific process of clinical trials is needlessly long and lives will lost because of it, he's pushing a superstitious optimism combined with a vague hatred of bureaucracy that has always served him well. Let's put this in a clear, stark choice. Who do you believe? The head of the American Medical Association or the guy that looks into the sun during an eclipse?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

T-it is a Hail Mary for those that are already on the Green Mile. Testing positive will not get you Expanded Usage access. I would attribute the acceptance of usage to "I'm drowning on my own Fluids, what do I have to lose?". It would be intelligent to determine in writing before you get to that point that you would want your advocate to request Expanded Usage of Hydrochloroquine as a Hail Mary. But to allude that only intelligent people will use it is misleading.

Compassionate Usage/Expanded Access

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Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

It won't kill you? Those side effects may indeed kill you without any therapeutic benefit as you die from covid19. There will probably be some demonstrations of this as the trump boomers self medicate in their golf and tennis communities.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I highly recommend all dotards use this. Remember, no one dies from trying this- on the contrary,, it is your Trumpian American duty to do it- today.


Now grab your red hats, get out there and Make America Great Again!

Dotards- they will kill you. Don't vote for them.

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Edited: 04/06/2020 at 01:41 PM by fishkller

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Edited: 04/06/2020 at 01:42 PM by fishkller

Don't ya just love it when assholes cherrypick information!

MORON!

Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine
Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are oral prescription drugs that have been used for treatment of malaria and certain inflammatory conditions. Chloroquine has been used for malaria treatment and chemoprophylaxis, and hydroxychloroquine is used for treatment of rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus and porphyria cutanea tarda. Both drugs have in-vitro activity against SARS-CoV, SARS-CoV-2, and other coronaviruses, with hydroxychloroquine having relatively higher potency against SARS-CoV-2 [1,4,5]. A study in China reported that chloroquine treatment of COVID-19 patients had clinical and virologic benefit versus a comparison group, and chloroquine was added as a recommended antiviral for treatment of COVID-19 in China [6]. Based upon limited in-vitro and anecdotal data, chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine are currently recommended for treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in several countries. Both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have known safety profiles with the main concerns being cardiotoxicity (prolonged QT syndrome) with prolonged use in patients with hepatic or renal dysfunction and immunosuppression but have been reportedly well-tolerated in COVID-19 patients.

Due to higher in-vitro activity against SARS-CoV-2 and its wider availability in the United States compared with chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine has been administered to hospitalized COVID-19 patients on an uncontrolled basis in multiple countries, including in the United States. One small study reported that hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination with azithromycin reduced detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in upper respiratory tract specimens compared with a non-randomized control group but did not assess clinical benefit [7]. Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are associated with QT prolongation and caution is advised when considering these drugs in patients with chronic medical conditions (e.g. renal failure, hepatic disease) or who are receiving medications that might interact to cause arrythmias.

Hydroxychloroquine is currently under investigation in clinical trials for pre-exposure or post-exposure prophylaxis of SARS-CoV-2 infection, and treatment of patients with mild, moderate, and severe COVID-19. In the United States, several clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis or treatment of SARS-CoV-2 infection are planned or will be enrolling soon. More information on trials can be found at: https://clinicaltrials.gov/external icon.

There are no currently available data from Randomized Clinical Trials (RCTs) to inform clinical guidance on the use, dosing, or duration of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis or treatment of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Although optimal dosing and duration of hydroxychloroquine for treatment of COVID-19 are unknown, some U.S. clinicians have reported anecdotally different hydroxychloroquine dosing such as: 400mg BID on day one, then daily for 5 days; 400 mg BID on day one, then 200mg BID for 4 days; 600 mg BID on day one, then 400mg daily on days 2-5.

CRAPDigital...If you get the virus I would suggest you follow the guidelines....maybe you might survive!

But then again...you're such an asshole that I think probably not! There is some little known anecdotal research that indicates that if a patient has a huge sphincter it somehow restricts the delivery of needed corovavirus medication thus causing death!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 04/06/2020 at 03:31 AM by Fish Killer

Just another story that shows that twitler and his supporters are complete idiots. Hey twitler why don't you save some people? The tabloid Prez is a disgrace.

twtiler's snake oil just wretched deflection and ignorant promises

Edited: 04/06/2020 at 06:20 AM by Greensleeves

Looks like FK would take it. Lol moron

Yes hap! There was a story the other day in Wapo about a covid sufferer getting the hydroxy/zithro treatment and it had no effect. The dope in chief getting his idiotic base hopeful only to dash their dreams again. He already had them convinced he was going to make a white only society with women relegated to the kitchen and a wall around the whole US. Thankfully he will never deliver on his 99% of his promises.

Don't vote for dotards, they will kill you.

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My sister , who has been in the hospital for the last 10 days was put on chloroquine from day one. ( With COVID 19)

She was mysteriously taken off the shit last night.

Can you say hoax. There is some nefarious motive here.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Yeah, very odd indeed. Especially the way Trump stifles Fauci about it and gets really angry. If it so effective why doesn't Fauci agree with Trump? Why do the top medical doctors say it is deadly? Why have all the tests been inconclusive and or anecdotal? Most of all why are so many people dying if it is effective?

9,643 us deaths reported right now.

Circus meets science

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Seems pretty simple to me, progs. If you get infected and are in a hospital fighting for your life, decline that treatment.

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I take my advice from doctors, not clowns. Thanks though. But by all means, chug on your "stockpile" of it. Let us know how it goes.

tspank! Wait the hoax virus will make you fight for your life? tspank might be on to something. Why not fight a hoax with a hoax?

one thing that isn't a hoax is that tspank's Orange Crush is a dumb a$$.

Ion Channel is potentially opened by HydroxyChloroquine to allow ZINC to enter the cell structure. IT IS zinc that has been show to inhibit viral replication. Not Chloroquine!

There are no blind studies completed that have proved this theory. Not science, yet.

MEDCRAM on YouTube

Currently it is still Snake Oil

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Of course it is.

Boy, that was a quick response by the progs. Usually they don't realize that I'm making fools of them. They are sharp today.

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Nah, your clowning has no transference to others.

Edited: 04/06/2020 at 08:06 AM by HAPDigital

Yes. There is a video that explains this on NPNR. Zink is the block, the Chloroquine is what let's it pass into the cells. But it isn't a cure, it just slows the reproduction of the virus in your system.



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Yes you are right Cole. MEDCRAM reported on this finding in the video about 3 weeks ago. I linked directly to the video source. It's clearly laid out in the video how a virus invades a cell and replicates. How Zinc inhibits replication.


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now you of all people are a doctor, thats rich, we still remember russia russia russia

"we still remember russia russia russia "


Yep, so do we Cheatski..

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

tspank the climate denying dumb a$$ dabbling in science. He's happy to be a laughing stock. And speaking of stock his poor pigs probably get fed every last chemical he can find in his shed.

Good god look at all the stupidity here: "No one dies from trying this. At worst, it doesn't help. Doesn't make it worse or anything."

Edited: 04/06/2020 at 08:55 AM by Greensleeves

Trump is? He's contradicting the doctor that he chose to be on the lead of the WH Coronavirus task force. Not only contradicting him, blocking him from responding.

Cheater, you are a really dumb person. I must say.

TDS is on full display....let the seething hatred flow!!!!! Regarding hydroxychloroquine.... https://techstartups.com/2020/04/03/updates-from-dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-700-coronavirus-patients-with-99-9-success-rate-using-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-and-z-pak-1-outpatient-died-after-not-following-protocol-exclusi/ Its incredible the amount on energy is spent on snarking away everything the president says...without one ounce of critical thinking...keep on squawking!!!

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

It's also incredible (and sad) how much anecdotal evidence is accepted and passed off as science without critical thinking.

You have to accept that anecdotal evidence might be right, neutral/insignificant, or wrong.

As I mentioned above, as independent, anecdotal evidence accumulates, there will be some statistical reduction in "noise." Additionally, everything must be interpreted with some degree of confidence or skepticism.

I'm no fan of Trump, but I try to read and then validate claims made by both sides.

I'm a huge critic of CNN (since we don't watch Fox) whenever I hear them take something Trump said out of context, and then make an hour-long, unrebutted show (e.g., Don Lemon) bashing him over it. That's a pretty frequent occurrence here on NSR as well.

Edited: 04/09/2020 at 10:16 AM by RegularJoe

blOwBs! "without one ounce of critical thinking" oh boy. The critically thinking blowbs probably has his Easter outfit all pressed and ready to go back in public!

OH...good one, greenies!! fcking dork....

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Is it critical thinking to question the dope in chief's bigly exaggerations, name calling, and plain lies? Oh no that's not "critical thinking" to blowbs.

Hey is twtiler really cutting funding to the WHO mid pandemic?
Hey is the malaria stuff really the answer?
Hey is that really a horrid question from a nasty person.
Is Joe reallly sleepy? Yes the dumb a$$ in chief really called a political rival a name in a nationwide press conference.

Good luck marching in lockstep blowbs since the marching orders change daily. Good thing twitler's frendz and worshippers don't have to critically think. They might realize they are full of it like their master.

Edited: 04/09/2020 at 11:27 AM by Greensleeves

Trump, the president of the United States and the most connected man on the planet had access to critical information that he downplayed, if not openly ignored. There is no excuse for what he did and if you think about it, he is still doing nothing. PPE supplies are being supplied by the private sector with no help from the White House, testing is still nonexistent across a large swath of the US, there is no national plan for anything and his medical advice is, "what do you have to lose by taking a drug that might work?"

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I was right.

It appears that using it for COVID-19 makes you more likely to get a heart problem than to help you.

Summation: People using quinn to fight Covid are stupid.

Recent study on hydroxyclhoroquine

Edited: 05/22/2020 at 08:04 AM by Greensleeves

Don't ya just love it when an ASSHOLE posts on a subject he knows NOTHING about and in his post he sites a study that does NOT include the main ingredient that was stated REQUIRED for the cocktail to work!

ZINC!

You are as STUPID as they get!







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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

I did think about it....

You're full of shit!

Fact!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Yo...ASSHOLE.....

Where is the ZINC?

You know....THE REQUIRED ADDITION TO THE COCKTAIL....

Who ties your shoes in the morning?

It SURE isn't YOU!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.