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Topic Title: Putin and bounty's on US Troops Topic Summary: Created On: 07/26/2020 06:27 AM |
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- jdbman | - 07/26/2020 06:27 AM |
- crankit | - 07/26/2020 06:50 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 07:08 AM |
- Cole | - 07/26/2020 07:22 AM |
- johnnyboy | - 07/26/2020 07:07 AM |
- fishkller | - 07/26/2020 09:01 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 09:03 AM |
- fishkller | - 07/26/2020 09:04 AM |
- CurtisEflush | - 07/26/2020 09:15 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 09:19 AM |
- CurtisEflush | - 07/26/2020 09:30 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 09:40 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 09:41 AM |
- fishkller | - 07/29/2020 01:17 PM |
- CurtisEflush | - 07/26/2020 09:45 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 09:53 AM |
- CurtisEflush | - 07/26/2020 10:09 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 10:13 AM |
- Cole | - 07/26/2020 10:34 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 10:45 AM |
- fishkller | - 07/26/2020 10:59 AM |
- CurtisEflush | - 07/26/2020 07:20 PM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 07:26 PM |
- CurtisEflush | - 07/26/2020 07:33 PM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 07:34 PM |
- CurtisEflush | - 07/26/2020 07:37 PM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 07:41 PM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 07:45 PM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 08:03 PM |
- Cole | - 07/26/2020 09:21 PM |
- Cole | - 07/26/2020 09:21 PM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/26/2020 09:37 PM |
- jdbman | - 07/27/2020 03:53 AM |
- jdbman | - 07/29/2020 03:50 AM |
- Greensleeves | - 07/26/2020 11:57 AM |
- Central Floridave | - 07/29/2020 03:54 AM |
- Central Floridave | - 07/29/2020 03:57 AM |
- Plan B | - 07/29/2020 04:24 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 07/29/2020 12:58 PM |
- jdbman | - 07/31/2020 11:23 AM |
- jdbman | - 08/03/2020 01:49 PM |
- tpapablo | - 08/03/2020 02:28 PM |
- HAPDigital | - 08/03/2020 02:45 PM |
- nukeh2o | - 08/03/2020 03:00 PM |
- jdbman | - 08/05/2020 12:24 PM |
- jdbman | - 08/07/2020 12:48 PM |
- tpapablo | - 08/07/2020 12:53 PM |
- crankit | - 08/07/2020 03:32 PM |
- jdbman | - 08/08/2020 12:57 PM |
- johnnyboy | - 07/29/2020 05:36 AM |
- jdbman | - 07/29/2020 12:56 PM |
- wtf | - 07/29/2020 01:04 PM |
- fishkller | - 08/07/2020 01:19 PM |
- fishkller | - 08/07/2020 03:45 PM |
- Cole | - 08/08/2020 05:47 AM |
- crankit | - 08/08/2020 07:00 AM |
- HAPDigital | - 08/08/2020 07:12 AM |
- Cole | - 08/08/2020 07:56 AM |
- sandi | - 08/08/2020 12:25 PM |
- johnnyboy | - 08/08/2020 12:53 PM |
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07/26/2020 06:27 AM
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Its been 30 days since this story broke. Have there been and actions or condemnation of this from tRump?
------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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07/26/2020 06:50 AM
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No BJman, it was a libtard fake news story!
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07/26/2020 07:08 AM
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No BJman, it was a libtard fake news story! Our military and intelligence agencies say else wise.... |
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07/26/2020 07:22 AM
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No BJman, it was a libtard fake news story! Why would you say that? The story is proven fact. I guess lies are Trump's only chance. ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/26/2020 07:07 AM
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It was real. It is real. Putin likes the drama and division. This is why Putin killed that former agent in Britain with polonium. He wanted everyone to know he did it and he wanted everyone to hear his steadfast denial complete with all of the typical whining about false accusations and whataboutisms. Trump has no will to confront our enemy Putln. He thinks Russia is our enemy but Putin is his friend.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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07/26/2020 09:01 AM
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He also met with Putin recently. Didn't even bring it up. Just bent down for the soap like a good jail punk... This is Crankit's hero. ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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07/26/2020 09:03 AM
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Crankit and company all wish that one day we merge with Russia and we can have all the race and sexual orientation oppression that Putin pushes. "No more gay at the Olympics!"
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07/26/2020 09:04 AM
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At the end of the day, that's why these traitors are OK with being cucked to Russia ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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07/26/2020 09:15 AM
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Top US general says Russian bounty intelligence 'wasn't proved' but 'proved enough to worry me'
Gen. Frank McKenzie, the commander of US Central Command, also told a small group of reporters while traveling to the region that he was not convinced that the Russian bounty program was directly responsible for the deaths of US personnel. "The intelligence wasn't proved to me. It was proved enough to worry me. It wasn't proved enough that I'd take it to a court of law. That's often true in battlefield intelligence," McKenzie said, according to a transcript provided by the Defense Department. McKenzie said Tuesday, "I'm very familiar with this material, and I'm a theater commander and I've had an opportunity to look at it. I found it very worrisome." "I just didn't find that there was a causative link there. It worried me, and we take extreme force protection measures all the time in Afghanistan," McKenzie said. "You see a lot of indicators. Many of them are troubling; many of them you act on. But in this case, there just wasn't enough there. I sent the intelligence guys back to continue to dig on it. And I believe they're continuing to dig right now," he added. Full article I think we learned a lesson from our 2003 invasion of Iraq about acting on poorly-validated evidence. This stuff can't just be tried in the emotional court of public opinion. |
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07/26/2020 09:19 AM
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Does it matter? It "was enough to worry" a top general. Trump has done nothing but praise Putin and invite him to work with our intelligence agents on cyber. WTF?
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07/26/2020 09:30 AM
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There could be a fine line or a huge gap between "enough to worry" and "enough to act on."
If the General in charge says it's not enough to act on, should anyone break ranks and act? Does it matter? I'll let you continue to ponder that. |
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07/26/2020 09:40 AM
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There could be a fine line or a huge gap between "enough to worry" and "enough to act on." If the General in charge says it's not enough to act on, should anyone break ranks and act? Does it matter? I'll let you continue to ponder that. Ponder this: "The Russian government interfered in our election in sweeping and systematic fashion" Trump: "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe," Trump: lifts sanctions on Putin ally's firms Trump: "It's 'common sense' to invite Putin to G-7" |
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07/26/2020 09:41 AM
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Add ignoring a pandemic and being the most divisive fuck the WH has ever seen.
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07/29/2020 01:17 PM
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I think we learned a lesson from our 2003 invasion of Iraq about acting on poorly-validated evidence. This stuff can't just be tried in the emotional court of public opinion. Let's take things slow regarding a death warrant on our troops. but by all means let's rush right in as fast as possible with the Hydroxychloriquine, Azythromycin and Demon Jizz! LOL Dotards.. ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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07/26/2020 09:45 AM
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Ponder this: You are changing the subject again.
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07/26/2020 09:53 AM
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It's all the same subject. You just said the info about the bounties was enough to worry a top General and yet Trump takes no action, not even verbal. Rather, he invites them and encourages them to help destroy our democracy.
If this was 1985 and President Reagan did this shit with Gorbachev, republicans would be losing their minds. However we have a former KGB agent hacking at our democracy and the GOP and Trump do nothing because it helps them get votes. Replace Trump in the scenario with Obama or a Clinton. You'd be stark raving mad right now. Democrats are handling this way too well. Edited: 07/26/2020 at 09:58 AM by HAPDigital |
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07/26/2020 10:09 AM
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This thread is "Putin and bounty's on US Troops"
The top General says, "...many of them you act on. But in this case, there just wasn't enough there." How do you know no action has been taken? None you read about in the press? I thought a great military mind like yours would understand the risks of taking overt action in response to questionable evidence. Covert? Of course, but we wouldn't know about it. |
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07/26/2020 10:13 AM
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This thread is "Putin and bounty's on US Troops" The top General says, "...many of them you act on. But in this case, there just wasn't enough there." How do you know no action has been taken? None you read about in the press? I thought a great military mind like yours would understand the risks of taking overt action in response to questionable evidence. Covert? Of course, but we wouldn't know about it. We know because nothing has been done and Trump welcomes Puting with open arms. So you're saying this info that worries a top general merits Trump welcoming Putin and wanting to work with him? Hmmm Not talking about overt action. I'm talking about policies and a public acknowledgement by the President that Putin is not good and he does not belong as an ally. Edited: 07/26/2020 at 10:15 AM by HAPDigital |
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07/26/2020 10:34 AM
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He said there was no open link to increase in deaths, he didn't say it was false. Big difference.
------------------------- I was right. |
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07/26/2020 10:45 AM
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He said there was no open link to increase in deaths, he didn't say it was false. Big difference. No matter what reality says they will side with Trump. Cultists, it's all they are. Blind faith fucks willing to go down with a ship. |
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07/26/2020 10:59 AM
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LOL Curtis thinks Trump should wait for a notarized Bounty Poster before bringing it up with Putin. ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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07/26/2020 07:20 PM
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So you're saying this info that worries a top general merits Trump welcoming Putin and wanting to work with him? Hmmm No, but I am saying that you're an imbecilic, intellectually dishonest fukk for trying to put those words into my mouth. So you're saying. "I hope my amateur debate tactic of insult and deflect might work in the absence of a rational, on-topic rebuttal." Hmmm Not talking about overt action. I'm talking about policies and a public acknowledgement by the President that Putin is not good and he does not belong as an ally. Now at least you're trying. I agree with both points, but... He said there was no open link to increase in deaths, he didn't say it was false. Big difference. No matter what reality says they will side with Trump. Cultists, it's all they are. Blind faith fucks willing to go down with a ship. ...this thread is still about the Russian bounty on US soldiers. The general said the evidence was not solid enough to act -- on this particular matter -- yet you guys are failing to accept his statement. And then HAP reverts to the "Trump cultist" insult. Not remotely applicable. LOL Curtis thinks Trump should wait for a notarized Bounty Poster before bringing it up with Putin. Like HAP and Cole, you are not addressing the main topic of this thread: How credible are the reports on the Russian bounty, and what action would you take or recommend based on the data and evidence that you have, which is a lot less than the general has? Twitler acts on $hit that isn't proven all the time! And you hate it every time, so why encourage it now? Edited: 07/26/2020 at 07:23 PM by CurtisEflush |
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07/26/2020 07:26 PM
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So you're saying this info that worries a top general merits Trump welcoming Putin and wanting to work with him? Hmmm No, but I am saying that you're an imbecilic, intellectually dishonest fukk for trying to put those words into my mouth. So you're saying. "I hope my amateur debate tactic of insult and deflect might work in the absence of a rational, on-topic rebuttal." Hmmm Not talking about overt action. I'm talking about policies and a public acknowledgement by the President that Putin is not good and he does not belong as an ally. Now at least you're trying. I agree with both points, but... He said there was no open link to increase in deaths, he didn't say it was false. Big difference. No matter what reality says they will side with Trump. Cultists, it's all they are. Blind faith fucks willing to go down with a ship. ...this thread is still about the Russian bounty on US soldiers. The general said the evidence was not solid enough to act -- on this particular matter -- yet you guys are failing to accept his statement. And then HAP reverts to the "Trump cultist" insult. Not remotely applicable. LOL Curtis thinks Trump should wait for a notarized Bounty Poster before bringing it up with Putin. Like HAP and Cole, you are not addressing the main topic of this thread: How credible are the reports on the Russian bounty, and what action would you take or recommend based on the data and evidence that you have, which is a lot less than the general has? Twitler acts on $hit that isn't proven all the time! And you hate it every time, so why encourage it now? Really? This question just discredits everything you said above. |
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07/26/2020 07:33 PM
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Really? This question just discredits everything you said above. This response once again illustrates your propensity to deflect and wander off topic. |
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07/26/2020 07:34 PM
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Really? This question just discredits everything you said above. This response once again illustrates your propensity to deflect and wander off topic. It's all the same topic. You saying it is not does not make it so. |
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07/26/2020 07:37 PM
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So, what action would you take or recommend -- specific to the reported bounties -- based on the data and evidence that you have, which is a lot less than the general has?
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07/26/2020 07:41 PM
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The bounty report is enough to worry a top general. If a top general worries about an issue they inform the president. It is in Trump's hands. He has had this info for quite some time and did nothing about. It was enough of a worry for one of his aids or staff to leak it out. Here we are a month later knowing this info and he has still done nothing about it. He doesn't do anything about Russia and their attacks on us. He just invites Putin and praises him. He sends federal agents to attack civilians instead.
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07/26/2020 07:45 PM
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He needs to put the hammer down on Putin. How they do it without escalating a war is out of my ballpark. However, there can be more sanctions and put back the sanctions they removed. He needs to direct a speech towards Putin warning him. But it will never happen. They are buds and Trump is doing Putin's bidding. He is Putin's bitch. If you don't think this by now, you are definitely a cultist. No hyperbole about it.
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07/26/2020 08:03 PM
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We are Americans. We tear down walls, not build them! And we don't take shit from Russia!
Well now we do and we let them meddle in our elections to help Trump and then Praise their leader and invite him to work with our intelligence agents and build useless walls keeping nobody out. The same walls that are blowing down right now from high winds. SMH. Edited: 07/26/2020 at 08:16 PM by HAPDigital |
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07/26/2020 09:21 PM
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If Putin did make the deal for each death, would Trump do anything about it?
------------------------- I was right. |
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07/26/2020 09:21 PM
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That's the heart of the question.
------------------------- I was right. |
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07/26/2020 09:37 PM
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If Putin did make the deal for each death, would Trump do anything about it? "You're off topic". |
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07/27/2020 03:53 AM
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Has the Senate Armed Services Committee taken this up?
Why do Nazis make deals with Russians? ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. Edited: 07/27/2020 at 03:53 AM by jdbman |
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07/29/2020 03:50 AM
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"Beyond admitting he never raised Russian bounties intel to Putin in at least 8 conversations, asked about Russia arming the Taliban, Trump says "Well, we supplied weapons when they were fighting Russia, too"."
------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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07/26/2020 11:57 AM
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Flush trying to use some sort of dotardian logic...
Twitler acts on $hit that isn't proven all the time! Damn doesn't anyone think his base and other Americans wouldn't like it if Trump talked tough to the KGB douche bag? But he won't? Why? |
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07/29/2020 03:54 AM
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Asked why he did not confront Putin on the issue in their call last Thursday, Trump told Axios, "That was a phone call to discuss other things, and frankly that's an issue that many people said was fake news."
His skepticism has been contradicted by four U.S. and European sources and by its inclusion in a widely read CIA report in May. Excerpts from Tuesday's interview were released on Wednesday and the full interview will be broadcast on Monday, Aug. 3. |
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07/29/2020 03:57 AM
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07/29/2020 04:24 AM
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that's painful to watch
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07/29/2020 12:58 PM
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Trump sold our country out to Putin over some sex tapes and a crappy ass loan. |
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07/31/2020 11:23 AM
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"Day 35. Not a word from Trump about the reported Russia bounty program.
He is a failed Commander in Chief. That much is clear. What still isn't clear, though, is if he will EVER condemn Putin for his actions." Tammy Duckworth ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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08/03/2020 01:49 PM
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Day 38 of presidential silence on #BountyGate.
------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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08/03/2020 02:28 PM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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08/03/2020 02:45 PM
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Day 38 of presidential silence on #BountyGate. Last I heard, it was shown to be fake news. Last I heard, you were Wrongz. |
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08/03/2020 03:00 PM
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Day 38 of presidential silence on #BountyGate. Last I heard, it was shown to be fake news. Yep, piggy's patron pal vladdie pupu sez it didn't happen. The entire American intelligence community is just deep state operatives out to make the mighty tangerine traitor look bad. Right, altbreits? duuuhhhhuuhhh ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax |
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08/05/2020 12:24 PM
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My son was in Afghanistan a year ago. Among the several commendations he received was a Bronze Star.
What do you think current and past American veterans think about Trump's response to bounty gate? "Tammy Duckworth @SenDuckworth On July 23rd, Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin - presenting an ideal opportunity for him to raise the reported Russian bounties. Instead, he used this call to "discuss other things." He continues to FAIL our troops. He is a failed Commander in Chief. #Day40" ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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08/07/2020 12:48 PM
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This year, the Republican party platform is: You can murder our soldiers.
------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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08/07/2020 12:53 PM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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08/07/2020 03:32 PM
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A Big shout out to your son, bbutt You are as usual wrong!
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08/08/2020 12:57 PM
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There is no way that the word credibility can be used in any discussion of the tampon. Most people use words like: piece of shit, dumbass, arrogant bastard, you know stuff like that. Get real. We are living in some kind of alternate universe. Putin has put bounties on our troops in Afghanistan. Prior to tRump most republicunts consider Regan to be god. What would Ron do if this happened during his tenure? What would JFK do? Hell even the little bushwacker would not let this stand. This is an atrocity. ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. Edited: 08/08/2020 at 03:47 PM by jdbman |
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07/29/2020 05:36 AM
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That's disgraceful.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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07/29/2020 12:56 PM
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Any Republican who sticks by Trump after his confirmation that he doesn't care to raise bounties with Putin, is just as disloyal and unfit as he is. Come to think of it, that would include just about every elected R.
------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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07/29/2020 01:04 PM
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methinks trump might have a little demon semen on his chin...
------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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08/07/2020 01:19 PM
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Proven or not, he heard about it and sat there with his thumb up his ass. Or was that Putin's thumb? You must be so proud. ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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08/07/2020 03:45 PM
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You shout out to his son that served in Afghanistan, yet look the other way when the "president" ignores a bounty on his head? Are you eating paint chips out there in Palm Bay, Barry? ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... Edited: 08/07/2020 at 06:01 PM by fishkller |
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08/08/2020 05:47 AM
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China in not interfering in the election and they do not want Biden to win.
------------------------- I was right. |
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08/08/2020 07:00 AM
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^^So says our resident coleslaw expert1^^
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08/08/2020 07:12 AM
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^^So says our resident coleslaw expert1^^[IMG][/IMG] China has more people and resources. I hope they get Biden in good like Putin did for Trump in 2016. I just want to see it so you can't say shit when it happens. I'd love to see Biden tell Xi Jinping his intelligence agents should work along side ours on cyber issues and deny publicly that Xi Jinping interfered because he said he believes him when he said he didn't do it. "I really believe Xi Jinping means it when he says he didn't interefer in our election." Edited: 08/08/2020 at 07:15 AM by HAPDigital |
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08/08/2020 07:56 AM
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^^So says our resident coleslaw expert1^^[IMG][/IMG] China has more people and resources. I hope they get Biden in good like Putin did for Trump in 2016. I just want to see it so you can't say shit when it happens. I'd love to see Biden tell Xi Jinping his intelligence agents should work along side ours on cyber issues and deny publicly that Xi Jinping interfered because he said he believes him when he said he didn't do it. "I really believe Xi Jinping means it when he says he didn't interefer in our election." Exactly. It's hilarious that Crackhit is too damn dumb to understand what I was referring to... ------------------------- I was right. |
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08/08/2020 12:25 PM
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it IS what IT is...
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08/08/2020 12:53 PM
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Tpap needs irrefutable evidence. That's why he never believed the whole Benghazi fraud. He was just too invested in proof to jump to the conclusions that the right wing echo chambers yelled loudly was a fact. Oh wait, no. I'm kidding. Tpap has a double standard and he can't appreciate why and how it's blatant use colors his credibility.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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