PENSACOLA, Fla. (AP) - Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz said President Donald Trump should pardon himself and others in his administration before leaving office to prevent the "radical left" from prosecuting them.

"President Trump should pardon Michael Flynn," Gaetz said. "He should pardon the Thanksgiving turkey. He should pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials to Joe Exotic if he has to."


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

He should do just that. The deranged progs have been calling for him to be jailed despite not even a hint of lawbreaking. Clearly, they would be more than happy to put him in jail despite no crime being commmitted. He should short circuit that type of illegal and unconstitutional threat.

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He should, that would be hilarious. Icing on the cake of presidential misconduct.

Now I'll leave the lawyering to you, but I was under the layman's impression that a pardon involves some admission of guilt or wrongdoing, no? Burdick?



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Edited: 11/25/2020 at 11:32 AM by RustyTruck

Yes, it does. You can't be pardoned for NOT doing a crime.

But I guess tRump is unaware that he cannot pardon himself.

Maybe Qrump is afraid of Federal charges against him...?

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He just pardoned Flynn.

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Flynn needed it- he's guilty as hell and has the Kraken for a "lawyer"


dude is lucky he admitted his guilt and accepted the handout

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Lionel Hutz

Another A+++

There is no protection from state prosecution.



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who's next? great album, BTW.

Asking qspank a legal opinion?

Better lawyers:

Chris Darden
Qudy Qiuliani
Lionel Hutz
Lawyer Milloy





Edited: 11/25/2020 at 11:51 AM by Greensleeves

Will he pardon the Corona Virus?

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Hey lawyers what is your take here:

Fun fact; now he's been pardoned, Mike Flynn loses all protection against compelled testimony under the 5th Amendment, so he can be subpoenaed anytime by the House and if he lies, he goes to jail.

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Edited: 11/25/2020 at 03:16 PM by wtf

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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

Dicks out for Harambe

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Affluenza kid!

Paris Hilton? She's never done anything wrong, oh momma!

"Michael Flynn was a paid foreign asset of the Turkish government after he was appointed National Security Advisor. This would be akin to Jake Sullivan currently being on the take from the Iranians.

It is a scandal without modern precedent. Trump and the GOP own it."






tm

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

And by the way, tRump said if he lost the election he will leave the country, So, when is tRump going to leave the country????

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

They should take his passport, he's a flight risk.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Doesn't need one. He's got a tunnel to Moscow.

Doesn't matter what the Loser in Chief does federally. New York is gonna throw the whole cabal in the hoosegow. An October Surprise, so it has been written.

http://www.nytimes.com/2020/11...gion/trump-taxes.html

http://www.politico.com/news/2...ctober-surprise-393177

Edited: 11/26/2020 at 06:41 AM by SlimyBritches

There will LOTS of pardons coming. Gaetz, in between his asskissing and worse, is being used to float this action to get the base used to it and agree with it. They are using Gaetz to politicize the pardons and use it to state loudly and often that these pardons are necessities to avoid the future prosecutions. Those are labeled witch hunts and the pardons are being rationalized by the the previous "witch hunts" that found nothing. The laying of the ground work must come from outside trump and back the appearance of a good idea that he really thinks about, tries to avoid and ultimately decides to do because the demon democrats are likely to "lock them up."

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He could replace God with Satan and they would agree.

This group shits on the Constitution. Law and order president. Give me a fucking break.

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Trump should be forced to identify the specific crimes he making pardons for. That would make his pardons for his family interesting.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

It also means they are admitting guilt to whatever crime they are being pardoned for.

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From today's Politico article:

>> Trump's pardon absolves Flynn of "any and all possible offenses" arising from Mueller's investigation, as well as any related grand jury proceedings. The clemency grant uses sweeping language, immunizing Flynn from charges based on "facts and circumstances, known to, identified by, or in any manner related to the investigation of the Special Counsel."

Some legal experts described Trump's move as perhaps the broadest act of clemency since President Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon in 1974.

"Pardons are typically directed at specific convictions or at a minimum at specific charges," said Margy Love, former pardon attorney for Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, who now leads the Collateral Consequences Resource Center. "I can think of only one other pardon as broad as this one, extending as it does to conduct that has not yet been charged, and that is the one that President Ford granted to Richard Nixon."<<

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Trump "could" perhaps pre-pardon himself. So what? Presidential Pardons are only good for FEDERAL cases, not State or Local.

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"People in the White House seem to be getting much more polite.
You can hear people saying, 'Pardon me' a lot"

--from twitter

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I beg your pardon, I never promised you a rose garden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...KNbI&feature=emb_logo



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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Ironically, Biden actually *wants* Trump to pardon himself.

It gets him out of the awkward situation of whether he should or should not pardon Trump himself for the good of the country (as Ford did with Nixon)

it's a win-win-win for Biden if Trump pardons himself:

a) those who say 'hell no, don't pardon that crook' are satisfied.

b) those who say 'pardon him to avoid escalating division' are satisfied.

c) Trump is still in an endless world of shit with his many non-federal legal problems.. which is all beyond Biden's control



So go for it Tubby! Accept your guilt and Steaks away...

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Edited: 12/03/2020 at 08:29 PM by fishkller

Pardoning for the sake of self preservation, definitely a new low, and we were already in the gutter.

Exactly- I forgot

d) Makes Trump look like an even bigger douchebag, puts all the embarassment on himself

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The GOP is trying to explain to Trump that pardoning his personal lawyer, children and in laws makes them look criminals. Trump is trying to explain to them that he doesn't care. Everyone is a criminal depending on who's in power and he will be pardoning them anyway.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.