It's been almost three months since Trump left the White House, most
Republicans still believe his election loss was the result of a rigged election or
illegal voting
Topline Findings
Washington, DC, April 2, 2021 - A new Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that most Americans agree that
former President Donald Trump was partly to blame for the Jan. 6th riot at the Capitol, and 61%
agree that he should not run for president again in 2024. However, support for Trump among his
Republican base remains strong as 55% of Republicans believe his 2020 election loss resulted from
illegal voting or election rigging. Paradoxically, 35% of Republicans agreed with both of the following
theories: that the people who gathered at the U.S. Capitol on Jan 6th were peaceful, law-abiding
Americans and that it was actually led by violent left-wing protestors trying to make Trump look bad.
To that end, 81% of Republicans still view Trump favorably. Of the other Republican political figures
asked about, Republicans were most familiar with Mitt Romney and Ted Cruz, yet favorability for
both of these figures is not as high as for Donald Trump. Sixty-one percent view Ted Cruz favorably,
and only 38% favor Mitt Romney.
Finally, when it comes to voting rights, 81% of Americans believe it is important for the government
to make it easier to vote, but 74% also think it's important that new limits are set to protect elections
from fraud.

ipsos

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Thank you WG for an informative post citing a reputable news source.

In the long run Qrump is the best thing to happen to liberalism in America.

He is the orange, worm-eaten albatross around the skinny failing neck of the QOP and they will never recover from him.

It was lost by fraud. If it wasn't, why won't dems investigate it? Indeed they are imposing road blocks to those who are. If I may serve as an example, I love demonstrating that my foes are idiots.

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" most
Republicans still believe his election loss was the result of a rigged election".

Only a small percentage really believe it. The rest are just bad sports that don't give two ships and a flock about the USA. It's about giving their rich sugar daddy a bone.

Liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

I see "The Big Lie" is still the popular with the pugs, regular folks have moved on.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Not the regular folks. The idiots who believed the Russian collusion Big Lie are the ones who have moved on. As always, they are on the wrong side of the truth.

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but 74% also think it's important that new limits are set to protect elections
from fraud.

Why, if there was no fraud, do %74 of Americans believe that new 'Laws' need to be set to protect elections??

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Well I don't believe that statistic, but if anyone thinks that it's because there's a well funded propaganda machine that has been trying to convince them of it from the moment trump lost the election.

The Pugs are an anti-democratic party, and they understand that their only path to power is via disenfranchising voters who tend to vote Dem.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 04/12/2021 at 10:36 AM by RustyTruck

I love the poeple that think Joe Biden personally caused gas prices to go up.......gas price is low during election and is high after.........every damn time no matter who's doing what

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I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life

Yes pandaroo the qotard movement is feeble in:

logical thought
economics
ability to ride a wave
Saying no to a request for contributions from their orange puppet master

They suq

>>During the Trump era, we've already seen how Republicans who once embraced free trade are now committed protectionists. The party that insisted that "character matters" in the 1990s, decided that nothing mattered after Trump came along. Republicans cared deeply about deficits and debts ... until they lost interest. A party that prided itself on its patriotism has made its peace with a seditious insurrection, and now finds itself attacking the national pastime.


It's a head-shaking display of ideological malleability that seems like a rejection of every principle that conservatives held dear. The reality is that the GOP's working-class war against corporate America is neither a war, nor working class, nor especially anti-corporate. Like almost everything else in Republican politics these days, the GOP-corporate slap fight is more performative than substantive. And everyone involved knows it.

For decades, Republicans claimed to believe in local control and the right of private businesses to make their own decisions. But now, activist GOP governors like Ron DeSantis of Florida and Greg Abbott of Texas are signing executive orders barring businesses from requiring "vaccination passports."

Conservatives who once claimed they favored limited government, now push an ambitious array of state mandates and interventions. Senators like Josh Hawley have called for the creation of new bureaucracies to audit and monitor speech on social media platforms. "Constitutional conservatives" like Senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee threaten to use government power to retaliate against private organizations for their political speech.

And until about five minutes ago, GOP Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was the Senate's chief defender of the free speech rights of corporate America. Back in 2012, when Democrats pressed for more transparency in corporate political spending, McConnell declared: "It is critically important for all conservatives - and indeed all Americans - to stand up and unite in defense of the freedom to organize around the causes we believe in, and against any effort that would constrain our ability to do so."<<

THis is from an oped in Politico. It struck as me as proof the times have changed.




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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

The dems left a wide open hole for us to march through and we took advantage. The dems dumped the working man in favor of billionaires. They try to keep minorities under their sway by the use of "racism" in every statment they make. But the reality is that they are pissing on minorities, as is shown by the recent open border policy, which will undercut minority wages and which sky-rocketed under Trump. So, now the GOP represents the common man. That includes minorities, who will continue to drift our way. When your enemy (and the enemy of America) gives you a gift, take it.

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We won the last election by a landslide...yet the fraud was so great that it still had the demoshits win.

How is epic fraud going to be stopped by the next election?



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

...and thats a rigged liberal poll!

http://www.ipsos.com/en-us/new...as-stolen-donald-trump

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

QOP = suckers. Stick with Qrump! QOP irrelevancy guaranteed!

The dems embraced millionaires. That's rich. Pun intended.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Some are investigating. I will be watching the result of the audit closely.

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Boo-hoo Boehner is trying to make a comeback run.

Or, at least he is trying to sell books.

Allthewhile, stoking broad brushes of revisionist history.

T'rump-tards, Conservitards. Shake 'em up in a bag. They fall out the same.

Trump's sixty plus cases were so pathetic that all courts - Liberal, Conservative, Independent - couldn't even be bothered with trying them. Just a clown show of drunks, lies, disease spreading and other fabricated bullshit.

As to fraud, yes, I'm sure it was attempted, but by Republicans. There is no way Trump won the state of Florida by the margins he did and doubly so considering that the votes that put him over the top came from Blue areas of the state.

Without this fraud, Biden would had won by a larger margin.

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I was right.

Mich. Lawsuit Shows Evidence Of Election Fraud, Electronic Vote Tampering
SAVANNAH, GA - FEBRUARY 5:
OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 3:45 PM PT - Monday, April 12, 2021

Michigan attorney Matthew DePerno filed a lawsuit, challenging voter fraud and electronic meddling with 2020 elections in his state.

"Our states give access to people to the qualified voter rolls," DePerno explained. "We believe that the state of Michigan has given over 32 groups access to the qualified voter roll."

The lawsuit, filed last week, is based off several forensic reports. These reports revealed thousands of ballots were illegally cast for Joe Biden and there was electronic manipulation of votes.

DePerno found more than 66,000 unregistered ballots were counted in nine Michigan counties.


The suit also cited a forensic analysis by James Penrose, who found voting machines illegally used wireless technology to transmit vote totals to third parties.

"That includes Rock the Vote, the Clinton campaign, all of those people have access to the voter roll and can make changes to it at any time," DePerno said. "Add people to it, take people out. During the election, the night of the election, the day after the election."

DePerno also cited a report by Cyber Ninjas, who found Dominion voting machines in Antrim County provided unauthorized access to third parties, allowing vote tallies to be changed in real-time. He added this could be direct evidence of votes being switched from President Trump to Biden by foreign countries and Democrat operatives in Washington.

"Based on data, we believe we can identify foreign connections to the particular MAC or IP addresses in particular counties across the state. Interference, foreign interference, even domestic interference from D.C.," DePerno explained. "Certain people making attacks on counties, on Election Day hitting particular targets and firewalls."

Additional evidence by Allied Security Operations Group, also cited in the lawsuit, found Dominion machines in Michigan were designed to create systemic fraud and change election outcomes.

"They all have the same vulnerabilities that we've found. They have the same backdoors that we've found," DePerno said. "They're designed intentionally to allow for this type of problem. There's no reason you couldn't create or design a system that is secure."

The lawsuit contains dozens of pages of data from Michigan voting machines, including unauthorized software and the fragments of code that were arguably compromised.

DePerno said this lawsuit will start a domino effect exposing election fraud in other states, and show that Joe Biden's purported victory was illegitimate.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

BOMBSHELL! lol

Trump's sixty plus cases were so pathetic that all courts - Liberal, Conservative, Independent - couldn't even be bothered with trying them. Just a clown show of drunks, lies, disease spreading and other fabricated bullshit.



As to fraud, yes, I'm sure it was attempted, but by Republicans. There is no way Trump won the state of Florida by the margins he did and doubly so considering that the votes that put him over the top came from Blue areas of the state.



Without this fraud, Biden would had won by a larger margin.

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I was right.

Mich. Lawsuit Shows Evidence Of Election Fraud, Electronic Vote Tampering
SAVANNAH, GA - FEBRUARY 5:
OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 3:45 PM PT - Monday, April 12, 2021

Michigan attorney Matthew DePerno filed a lawsuit, challenging voter fraud and electronic meddling with 2020 elections in his state.

"Our states give access to people to the qualified voter rolls," DePerno explained. "We believe that the state of Michigan has given over 32 groups access to the qualified voter roll."

The lawsuit, filed last week, is based off several forensic reports. These reports revealed thousands of ballots were illegally cast for Joe Biden and there was electronic manipulation of votes.

DePerno found more than 66,000 unregistered ballots were counted in nine Michigan counties.


The suit also cited a forensic analysis by James Penrose, who found voting machines illegally used wireless technology to transmit vote totals to third parties.

"That includes Rock the Vote, the Clinton campaign, all of those people have access to the voter roll and can make changes to it at any time," DePerno said. "Add people to it, take people out. During the election, the night of the election, the day after the election."

DePerno also cited a report by Cyber Ninjas, who found Dominion voting machines in Antrim County provided unauthorized access to third parties, allowing vote tallies to be changed in real-time. He added this could be direct evidence of votes being switched from President Trump to Biden by foreign countries and Democrat operatives in Washington.

"Based on data, we believe we can identify foreign connections to the particular MAC or IP addresses in particular counties across the state. Interference, foreign interference, even domestic interference from D.C.," DePerno explained. "Certain people making attacks on counties, on Election Day hitting particular targets and firewalls."

Additional evidence by Allied Security Operations Group, also cited in the lawsuit, found Dominion machines in Michigan were designed to create systemic fraud and change election outcomes.

"They all have the same vulnerabilities that we've found. They have the same backdoors that we've found," DePerno said. "They're designed intentionally to allow for this type of problem. There's no reason you couldn't create or design a system that is secure."

The lawsuit contains dozens of pages of data from Michigan voting machines, including unauthorized software and the fragments of code that were arguably compromised.

DePerno said this lawsuit will start a domino effect exposing election fraud in other states, and show that Joe Biden's purported victory was illegitimate.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Seven more years of Democratic rule.

The country will be thankful for it too.

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I was right.

Not happening.

The people are NOT thankful for EXTREME GAS PRICES.

The people are NOT thankful for INCREASED TAXES.

The people are NOT thankful for OUR NEW EXTREME DEBT.

The people are NOT thankful for BIDEN'S NEW ATTEMPT TO CONFISCATE GUNS.

ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.






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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Seven years easy.

Trump set the debt record in a decent economy, so debt is out.

Gas prices fluctuate in the global economy, so that's out.

Taxes for the average American are set to rise under the Trump cuts, so that's out.

You said the same about Obama and guns, so that's out too.

Seven more, then another Dem for the next eight. DONE!



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I was right.

Qish is why normal humans hate the QOP. He's Qommie loving squm.

Hey Qotards, it's a beautiful day outside and the QOP is fading as a threat to the American way of life. Go get some fresh air and rejoice under liberal rule!

Bet not!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.