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12/02/2024 02:48 PM
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Ummmm, , , , , so, I guess we aint got much room to complain about drunken Russians??!!
The Hill Hegseth forced out of vets groups due to drinking, misconduct: New Yorker Ellen Mitchell Mon, December 2, 2024 at 2:19 PM EST Pete Hegseth, President-elect Trump's pick to lead the Pentagon, was forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran due to mismanagement of funds, sexual impropriety and reports of intoxicated behavior, The New Yorker reported on Sunday. The incidents - relayed in a trail of documents and corroborated to The New Yorker by the accounts of former colleagues - took place prior to Hegseth becoming a full-time Fox News TV host in 2017. Hegseth's reported booting from both Veterans for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America raises further questions about his suitability to take the helm as Defense secretary, a position in which he would oversee the country's largest federal agency that employs more than 2.8 million people. The publication cited a previously undisclosed whistleblower report on Hegseth's time as the president of Concerned Veterans for America (CVA). That seven-page report, which chronicled his 2013 to 2016 tenure, describes him as being repeatedly intoxicated while acting in his official capacity and sometimes needing to be carried out of the organization's events. The report had been created by multiple former CVA employees and sent to the organization's senior management in February 2015. Among the most damning allegations, Hegseth was so intoxicated he had to be physically stopped from joining dancers on the stage of a Louisiana strip club, where he had brought his team in November 2014. Two people who told The New Yorker they had contributed to the report said they had seen Hegseth drunk numerous times and on multiple occasions dragged away or carried from one location to another because he was so intoxicated. "To have him at the Pentagon would be scary," one person said. In one complaint in the report, describing a CVA event in Virginia Beach on Memorial Day weekend in 2014, Hegseth was seen as "totally sloshed" and had to be carried to his room because "he was so intoxicated." The next month at an event in Cleveland, Hegseth went with his team to a bar near their hotel and got "completely drunk in a public place," with "several high profile people" who were in attendance "very disappointed to see this kind of public behavior," according to the report. The report also says that Hegseth - at the time married to his second wife - along with other members of his management team sexually pursued the CVA's female staffers and created a hostile workplace that ignored serious accusations of sexual assault or harassment. And in a separate letter of complaint sent to CVA in late 2015, another former employee said a drunk Hegseth was aggressively chanting "Kill All Muslims! Kill All Muslims!" at a Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, bar early on May 29, 2015, while on official business in the state. Timothy Parlatore, Hegseth's lawyer, told The New Yorker that "an advisor" to Hegseth was not "going to comment on outlandish claims" laundered through the publication "by a petty and jealous disgruntled former associate of Mr. Hegseth's. Get back to us when you try your first attempt at actual journalism." But Senate Armed Services Committee senior member Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) told The New Yorker the reports of Hegseth's drinking were alarming and disqualifying to him becoming Pentagon chief. "Much as we might be sympathetic to people with continuing alcohol problems, they shouldn't be at the top of our national-security structure," he said. "It's dangerous. The Secretary of Defense is involved in every issue of national security. He's involved in the use of nuclear weapons. He's the one who approves sending troops into combat. He approves drone strikes that may involve civilian casualties. Literally life-and-death issues are in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, and entrusting these kinds of issues to someone who might be incapacitated for any reason is a risk we cannot take." Hegseth also reportedly drove the organization Vets for Freedom (VFF) into the ground financially. In 2007, he became president of the group, which advocated for expanding the war in Iraq and was funded by several Republican billionaire donors. But under Hegseth's leadership, the organization ran up enormous debt with money reportedly being wasted on expenses such as parties. The finances of VFF became so bleak the group's donors arranged for VFF to merge with another organization that would take over most of its management, essentially forcing Hegseth out in 2012. The bombshell report follows a recently unearthed email sent by Hegseth's mother, Penelope Hegseth, in 2018, in which she admonishes him as "an abuser of women" who "belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego." "On behalf of all the women (and I know it's many) you have abused in some way, I say ... get some help and take an honest look at yourself," Penelope Hegseth wrote to her son, according to text of the email published by The New York Times. Penelope Hegseth told the Times she had sent a follow-up message at the time apologizing for the email, claiming she sent the message "in anger, with emotion" as her son and his wife were going through a divorce. Hegseth has come under significant fire over allegations that he sexually assaulted a woman in 2017, with a police report on the incident that surfaced last month. He denies the claims of wrongdoing, but his lawyer has admitted Hegseth paid the woman to avoid a lawsuit. Trump's pick of Hegseth to serve as the Pentagon's top civilian had already shocked many in Washington, given his job as a former Fox News commentator and his limited experience in running an organization. Hegseth was also in the Army National Guard during the time he was running conservative veterans groups. He was an infantry officer in the Army National Guard from 2002 to 2021. After graduating from Princeton University in 2003, he went on to serve tours in Guantánamo Bay, Iraq and Afghanistan, earning two Bronze Stars along with other service medals. ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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12/02/2024 03:16 PM
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Damn! Another nutjob down.
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12/02/2024 03:20 PM
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When your own mom sends you that message, it's time to get some help.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/03/2024 05:52 AM
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When your own mom sends you that message, it's time to get some help. "Mom, why do you have to be such a filthy lying whore? All you cock socket cunts are the same. So full of shit- Get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich bitch!" ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/03/2024 06:36 AM
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Progs fall for another hoax? I'm shocked.
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/02/2024 07:19 PM
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Bravo, MAGA. Bravo. ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/03/2024 05:48 AM
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Yeah this guy is awesome. Give 'em hell Petie-Pie!
------------------------- Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it. |
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12/03/2024 07:33 AM
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The mom admitted this, she just said that she spoke in anger and did not want the email shared. Factually, its accurate.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/03/2024 11:32 AM
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Drunk on the job and rape? All mothers have disapproved of things done by their children. Even happened with me, if my mom's spankings were any indication. Not exactly earth shaking news. Think Dementa Joe's mom would have approved of him lying to 300+million Americans? Doubt it.
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12/03/2024 11:50 AM
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He wasn't a child receiving spankings. He was an out of control, alcoholic toxic asshole who's one mother begged him to get back to the son she thought he could be.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/03/2024 11:58 AM
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Mom -
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/03/2024 11:02 PM
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You've been hoaxed yet again. Well so much for another Twrongz "hoax" LOL sounds like Petey Pie's days are numbered. Word is that Rhonda could be the next one up on the Konveyor Belt of Klownz.. ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/04/2024 05:33 AM
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His mama, god bless her soul, is on a retraction/apology/promotion tour on behalf of her son saying he is redeemed and has changed.
A parent being a parent, which I understand. ------------------------- If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV |
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12/03/2024 01:29 PM
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>>The bombshell report follows a recently unearthed email sent by Hegseth's mother, Penelope Hegseth, in 2018, in which she admonishes him as "an abuser of women" who "belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego."
"On behalf of all the women (and I know it's many) you have abused in some way, I say ... get some help and take an honest look at yourself," Penelope Hegseth wrote to her son, according to text of the email published by The New York Times. Penelope Hegseth told the Times she had sent a follow-up message at the time apologizing for the email, claiming she sent the message "in anger, with emotion" as her son and his wife were going through a divorce.<< She wrote it. Its in writing and it is published. She regretted it, I get that, but she wrote it. ------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/03/2024 01:46 PM
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Well, I have spent enough time on this hoax. Let's move on to the next one.
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/03/2024 02:37 PM
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Several people at fox are saying he often hungover and stinking of alcohol.
Yeah, he is the perfect trump nomination. I hope Trump doesn't abandon stinkin' Pete like he dropped McRapey. ------------------------- If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV |
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12/03/2024 03:56 PM
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Tsteak still trying to keep himself from accepting what a rapey drunk Christian Crusadin' clown the dude is.. sounds like the usual MO for Wrongz. Life is easier in the warm and safe henhouse ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/03/2024 04:00 PM
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Tpap is waving the white flag now that he has had his nose rubbed in it. Predictable.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/03/2024 04:02 PM
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"I don't even know Pig Hegseth.. oops did I say that?" anyway, RFK is gonna get free Heroin to the schoolkids so they can read better.. ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/04/2024 05:45 AM
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He probably backhanded some sense into her ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/04/2024 05:52 AM
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Criminals, scum-bags, rapists and nutjobs.... THIS IS GREAT!
DRAIN THE SWAMP! DRAIN THE SWAMP! DRAIN THE SWAMP! ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/04/2024 06:19 AM
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Trump might be draining the swamp, but he is marching in a circus full of clowns.
He isn't picking cabinet nominees, he is auditioning Season 2's cast for Trump's reality show...so he has to have controversial characters to keep it interesting. ------------------------- If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV |
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12/04/2024 06:43 AM
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Dirty, slithering and deceitful; these people are the heart of the swamp.
------------------------- I was right. |
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12/06/2024 06:15 AM
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Trump called Hegmolester with his backing. Rapists got to keep it tight!
God's soldiers take a stand!! WOOT! ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/06/2024 06:27 AM
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Trump, found liable for rape, his AG pick short circuited his sex with a 17 year old by resigning, Hegseth raped a woman in her hotel room and bought her silence. If only we had a group that could connect these dots and make sense of this pattern, where one went they all went. If only.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/06/2024 06:31 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/08/2024 03:35 PM
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From an aide to a senator who is going to support Hegseth.
"The best set of facts for Hegseth is he fucked a married woman while he was hammered in his hotel room and she was embarrassed and she came up with this story that he drugged her to hide it from her husband" said an aide to a senator who supports Hegseth's nomination. "Of course, when he says all that, he has to admit that his latest baby mama was taking care of his kid. And, oh yeah, he knocked her up while cheating on his second wife. And he cheated on his first wife with the second one". This is the caliber of Trump's appointees, and I hope he gets them all...or at least the rest of them...through. oh yeah, should add a few more beers since we are talking about Hegseth... ------------------------- If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV |
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12/09/2024 05:48 AM
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A lie. He was acquitted of a rape. You have been found liable for a hoax. Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M http://apnews.com/article/trum...98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/09/2024 06:47 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/09/2024 06:49 AM
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A lie. He was acquitted of a rape. You have been found liable for a hoax. Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M http://apnews.com/article/trum...98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db As I said. I have no need for the forum idiots to prove what I say here. Everyone knows I tell nothing but the truth. A reduced sentence is an acquittal? ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/09/2024 07:57 AM
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The jury found that he did not commit rape. How obtuse can a person be?
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12/08/2024 04:37 PM
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He's going to quit drinking any day now. Any day.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/09/2024 05:50 AM
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He's going to quit drinking any day now. Any day. He can quit anytime. If he gets the job, he's on the wagon! If not, well... Ladies be careful. ------------------------- Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it. |
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12/09/2024 08:04 AM
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Sounds like unconditional love for daddy trump.
He's not a rapist! He only sexually abused that woman! ------------------------- Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it. |
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12/10/2024 10:26 AM
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Sounds like unconditional love for daddy trump. He's not a rapist! He only sexually abused that woman! Exactly. Tsub is on a full apology tour in this thread lol "but he didnt cum IN her mouth, so...." ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/10/2024 06:11 AM
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The full court press is on. Hegseth is being treated as included in the package for all nominees. The threat of being primaried by a MAGAt is real and it's being used with great effect.
>> Allies of Trump, including Kirk, are already vowing to mount primary challenges against red-state Republican senators who don't support his nominees - a plan that Trump's team is hinting support for. An op-ed written by Iowa Attorney General Brenna Bird calling for senators to support Trump's nominees was blasted out by the Republican National Committee press team. It was seen by some Republicans as a veiled primary threat against Ernst from a top Trump ally in Iowa. "They have a window of opportunity right now to show to the base that they're willing to play ball," said Andrew Kolvet, a spokesperson for Kirk. "We're going to see where they stand." ------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/10/2024 06:47 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/10/2024 06:57 AM
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Gloat now pay later. They whole advice and consent thing was supposed to vet candidates who had the best qualifications. Now it's a chorus of castrata elevating a clown who promises to quit drinking if he gets the job. The funny part is that last month, there was a fear that all these Fox hosts, hacks, suck ups and loyalists would be affirmed with a recess appointment process that worked without congressional approval for fear the GOP might exhibit some traces of spine. Turns out that was wrong. The GOP is lined up and on their knees, ready to please the dear leader and his base.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/10/2024 07:02 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/10/2024 11:23 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/10/2024 12:19 PM
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12/10/2024 07:19 AM
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That's not the base they are dirtying their knees for.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/10/2024 12:53 PM
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They get what they deserve.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/10/2024 12:58 PM
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I'm all for it. Let these hacks do their worst. Hard lessons must be learned.
------------------------- Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it. |
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12/10/2024 01:49 PM
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Deus Vult.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/11/2024 06:22 AM
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We in the America First movement must figuratively post the head of at least one hack GOP establishment senator at the summit of Capitol Hill during the 2026 cycle.
McConnell is a good place to start. Destroy it from the inside. lol Trump's got what, two years at the most? Then what? ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/11/2024 08:39 AM
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Trump is flip flopping in the wind as usual, but as of today Petey still doesn't have the votes. ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/11/2024 03:46 PM
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Trump loves a fighter. He also loves chaos so this is hard for him.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/12/2024 05:27 AM
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Trump loves a fighter. He also loves chaos so this is hard for him. He also loves those who are like him. Brothers in sexual assault. ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/15/2024 08:21 AM
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I've been off the grid for a few days, is Trump still calling him with his backing?
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12/24/2024 07:44 PM
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Trump seems to have made voting for Hegseth a mandatory loyalty test for senators. Maybe even more than Kennedy.
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12/27/2024 01:48 PM
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So- "We the People" is White power--Isn't that the "Declaration of Independence"?
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12/27/2024 07:59 PM
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So- "We the People" is White power--Isn't that the "Declaration of Independence"? Who let the idiot out his box? ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/15/2024 06:46 PM
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Yes. But apparently the back up choice, our very own Rhonda, was not well received and most republicans said they would rather a drunken rapist with white power tattoos than Rhonda. Ouch.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/15/2024 09:57 PM
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Donold's got his finger in the wind to see which way it blows. That's the way he'll go. ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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12/16/2024 03:58 AM
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I was just at Fort Moore for an Army boot graduation and there are - close your eyes maga - WOMEN SOLDIERS!
Rapeseth would be outraged! ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/16/2024 05:26 AM
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And look at the way they were dressed in those salad suits. Just asking for it.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/25/2024 12:49 PM
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Trump may be in for a surprise ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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01/13/2025 07:54 AM
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Pete Hegseth, President Trump's nominee for Secretary of Defense, revealed his vulnerability to blackmail in a single damning statement. Asked by Megyn Kelly why he paid money to a woman accusing him of sexual assault, Hegseth responded, "I paid her because I had to - or at least I thought I did at the time. I had a great job at Fox and a wonderful marriage... It is not what I should have done, but I did it to protect that. I did it to protect my wife, I did it to protect my family, and I did it to protect my job. It was a negotiation purely to try to prevent that."
This is the essence of blackmail: coercion through exploitation. It's a dark and dangerous reality. And it disqualifies Hegseth from leading the Pentagon - or any national security role under longstanding federal policy...<< http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/...130aa4eee1fa544&ei=14 National security regulations have been clear for decades: Individuals susceptible to coercion cannot hold sensitive positions. Executive Order 10450, signed in 1953 and still in effect, explicitly bars individuals with vulnerabilities - such as blackmail - from positions of national security. This principle is reinforced by Standard Form 86, the mandatory questionnaire for all national security roles, which screens for "vulnerability to exploitation and coercion." Hegseth's admission aligns directly with these disqualifiers. He has already demonstrated a willingness to pay off his accuser, allegedly to protect his personal and professional life. As Secretary of Defense, his responsibilities would be infinitely more critical, and his adversaries exponentially more dangerous. ------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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01/13/2025 08:09 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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01/13/2025 09:26 AM
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No, everyone is not "subject to those pressures" equally or consistently. You may be ignorant about this but this is why we have National Security determine that susceptibility prevent those with vulnerabilities from compromising our country. Its the sort of new and imaginative thing that just started happening with an executive order from 1953.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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01/13/2025 10:37 AM
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Round and round the broken record goes.. ------------------------- So... America's Great Now? |
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