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Topic Title: Guiliani admits to asking foreign power
Topic Summary: to interfere with this coming election.
Created On: 09/20/2019 05:06 AM
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 09/20/2019 06:00 PM
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 09/20/2019 06:35 PM
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Starting to get interesting, , , , ,

CNN: trump-giuliani-biden-ukraine

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 09/22/2019 12:57 PM
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On Friday afternoon, the Wall Street Journal reported that on that phone call Trump pressured the new president "about eight times" to work with Giuliani on Biden, citing people familiar with the matter.

If this is true, interesting is a wild understatement.

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 09/22/2019 12:59 PM
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Fish Killer

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Biden is about to go under.

His phony campaign is done.

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

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 09/22/2019 01:03 PM
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Fuck off pencil dick. Quit wasting time and space with your worthless bombshells, incorrect prediction and wanton lies.

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 09/22/2019 03:52 PM
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chopola

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Guiliani admits to asking foreign power to interfere with this coming election.



Haha! Yeah boy, we are doing the same thing that Hillary did to Trump. More chickens coming home to roost, progs. There is one difference here - Biden is corrupt.


Here is Biden bragging about getting his boy off the hook with US taxpayer dollars, nothing the liberal left media is interested in reporting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY
 09/22/2019 06:22 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Fuck off pencil dick. Quit wasting time and space with your worthless bombshells, incorrect prediction and wanton lies.


Listen you POS commie shitforbrains...

Hows your prediction of Killary 'in a landslide' working for you?

Take your worthless bombshells, incorrect prediction and wanton lies and shove them up your ass!

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 09/23/2019 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



Fuck off pencil dick. Quit wasting time and space with your worthless bombshells, incorrect prediction and wanton lies.




Listen you POS commie shitforbrains...



Hows your prediction of Killary 'in a landslide' working for you?



Take your worthless bombshells, incorrect prediction and wanton lies and shove them up your ass!


Man, You are absolutely in Love with Hilary. On and On. big titted baby man has a crush

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 09/23/2019 06:18 AM
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The story behind Biden's son, Ukraine and Trump's claims
Associated Press STEPHEN BRAUN and LYNN BERRY,Associated Press 1 hour 9 minutes ago


The Obama White House said at the time that there was no conflict because the younger Biden was a private citizen. And there's been no evidence of wrongdoing by either Biden.

Yet the matter is back in the spotlight following revelations that President Donald Trump prodded Ukraine's president to help him investigate any corruption related to Joe Biden, now one of the top Democrats seeking to defeat Trump in 2020. Trump's private lawyer Rudy Giuliani has also publicly urged Ukrainian officials to investigate the Bidens.

Hunter Biden was named a paid board member of Burisma Holdings in April 2014. The company's founder was a political ally of Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine's Russia-friendly president, who was driven out in February 2014 by mass protests.

Yanukovych's ouster prompted the Obama administration to move quickly to deepen ties with Ukraine's new government. Joe Biden played a leading role, traveling to Ukraine and speaking frequently with its new Western-friendly president.

The younger Biden's business role raised concerns among anticorruption advocates that Burisma was seeking to gain influence with the Obama administration. At the time, the company ran a natural gas extraction operation in Crimea, a Ukrainian peninsula annexed by Russia after Yanukovych was pushed from power.

Hunter Biden has denied using his influence with his father to aid Burisma. He remained on the board through early 2019, often appearing at energy-related conferences abroad representing Burisma's interests.

On Saturday, the former vice president said he never speaks to his son about his overseas business dealings.

The matter, however, has continued to be questioned by Trump and his allies. They've pointed in particular to Biden's move in March 2016 to pressure the Ukrainian government to fire its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had previously led an investigation into Burisma's owner.

Biden was representing the official position of the U.S. government, a position that was also supported by other Western governments and many in Ukraine, who accused Shokin of being soft on corruption.

Corruption has continued to fester in Ukraine. In May, the country's new president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, came into office with no political experience but with bold promises to put an end to the corrupt practices.

Around this time, Giuliani began reaching out to Zelenskiy and his aides to press for a government investigation into Burisma and Hunter Biden's role with the company.

In a Fox News interview on May 19, Trump claimed the former Ukrainian prosecutor "was after" Joe Biden's son and that was why the former vice president demanded he be fired. There is no evidence of this.

Ukraine's current prosecutor, Yuriy Lutsenko, was quoted by Bloomberg News in May as saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden or his son. Bloomberg also reported that the investigation into Burisma was dormant at the time Biden pressed for Shokhin's ouster.

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 09/23/2019 06:22 AM
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Fish Killer

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OBVIOUSLY Trump has evidence.

Morons!

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 09/23/2019 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer Biden is about to go under. His phony campaign is done. Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Yeah, I never cease to be amazed by the stupidity of progs. Trying to take down Trump by means of highlighting their front runner's corruption? Do these guys think at all? I do wonder if it wasn't Trump who was the whistle blower.

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 09/23/2019 07:17 AM
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What you proclaim is obvious and the obvious things you overlook is too much to keep up with.

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 09/23/2019 07:31 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Biden is about to go under.



His phony campaign is done.



Bwahahahahahahahaha!



Yeah, I never cease to be amazed by the stupidity of progs. Trying to take down Trump by means of highlighting their front runner's corruption? Do these guys think at all? I do wonder if it wasn't Trump who was the whistle blower.



The success of his campaign has nothing to do with the illegality of a POTUS using his office to pressure a foreign government to interfere with a US election.

It's absolutely an abuse of power. It's the act of a dictator.
Not that you guys care of course. But the rest of the world sees it for what it is.


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 09/23/2019 08:33 AM
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If what the press is reporting is accurate, which it probably isn't, there is absolutely nothing wrong with him asking Ukraine to investigate the possible corrupt practices of an American citizen. The executive branch does this every day of the week. This is a strange thing. Progs and socialists, I thought, are militant in rooting out political corruption. But not in this case, huh? If Schiff or some other dem nut job were to ask a foreign gov't to investigate Trump, would that be an act of a dictator or an abuse of power in your way of looking at things? Let me answer for you: of course not.

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 09/23/2019 09:07 AM
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Plan B

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Rudy should probably just focus on his new job as Colonel Sanders...
 09/23/2019 09:10 AM
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3rdworldlover

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The president withholding defense aid to our ally to extort an "investigation" of his political opponent really isn't as big of a deal as firing the FBI Director to obstruct an investigation with national security implications, and then firing the AG with the same intention, failing to comply with FARA and disclose money owed to foreign individuals, lying to the USA repeatedly about secret meetings, and pushing conspiracy theories while his own children use security clearances to advance the family empire, dealing with all of the worst possible characters across the globe.

So, I'm with Tpap on this one. It's not surprising at all.
 09/23/2019 09:11 AM
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I love Rudy as Colonel Sanders! The good Rudy though, not the piece of $hit lying sack that these GOP kooks have no problem admiring.



Edited: 09/23/2019 at 09:13 AM by Greensleeves
 09/23/2019 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

OBVIOUSLY Trump has evidence.



Morons!



Obviously?

So far, every news station says there is no evidence against Biden or his son.

There is evidence against, "THE CHOSEN ONE."

The dominos continue to fall. Will the repubs do anything?

They haven't so far...

Edited: 09/23/2019 at 09:25 AM by sandi
 09/23/2019 10:21 AM
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In the video above, dumbass Biden openly brags about threatening Ukraine with withholding a billion taxpayer dollars if they didn't fire the prosecutor investigating his son. Biden could have easily been impeached for this.

If Trump simply asked Ukraine to investigate Biden, then good for him. Hopefully, Trump would verify anything he found and wouldn't feed bullshit to the FISA courts so he could spy on anyone. If Ukraine wants to share real information about Biden, then by all means, share away. If Trump threatened Ukraine in any way, as Grandpa dipshit did in the video above, then Trump has a problem. Basically, if Trump included funds in his conversation then he probably has the problem that the racist old dipshit Biden should have had.

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 09/23/2019 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper





In the video above, dumbass Biden openly brags about threatening Ukraine with withholding a billion taxpayer dollars if they didn't fire the prosecutor investigating his son. Biden could have easily been impeached for this.



If Trump simply asked Ukraine to investigate Biden, then good for him. Hopefully, Trump would verify anything he found and wouldn't feed bullshit to the FISA courts so he could spy on anyone. If Ukraine wants to share real information about Biden, then by all means, share away. If Trump threatened Ukraine in any way, as Grandpa dipshit did in the video above, then Trump has a problem. Basically, if Trump included funds in his conversation then he probably has the problem that the racist old dipshit Biden should have had.


Man, that would be bad if it were true. But it isn't. The prosecutor was investigating an oil company, and the investigation had nothing to do with Biden. Once again trump is caught abusing the office.



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