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Topic Title: Universal health care sure as hell didn't bankrupt Sweden and Denmark....
Topic Summary: But they don’t have an inflated Military budget
Created On: 02/17/2020 02:11 PM
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 02/18/2020 01:58 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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Originally posted by: nukeh2o

Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo



Originally posted by: nukeh2o







Those countries also don't have lying media outlets controlled by big pharma, big medicine, and russian botaganda.

Doubt they are cursed by lush pillbaugh, bleitfart, or hallucinating fat info alex types

Oh: and they're educated and enlightened.....




yeah countries with 53 people, its real hard to do




or a pasture with 53 sheep.... that one's a winkin at you sheepshit! shaawiinngg! mmmbaaahhhaaaahhh.........


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 02/18/2020 06:54 PM
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WG

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Originally posted by: Sniper

I'm not sure anyone is dead set on everyone paying more for healthcare. It comes down to whether or not we want the government in charge of managing our healthcare and being able to decide who gets treated.



How many people do you hear raving about the service they receive at VA clinics around the country?

----- At least one.


If you are looking for customer service and efficiency, are you going to ship something using FedEx, UPS, or the USPS?

--- USPS is competitive, often cheaper

Look at the advancements SpaceX and others have made in our space program in the short time they have been involved.

-- a perfect example of how smart government spending can spur industry

If you want the healthcare industry to be agile and innovative then keep it private and encourage competition.

-- wrong, there is little competition now, little choice.

What good is cheaper care if the care is shit?


-- it will be the same damn doctor and nurses, why would the fact that their paycheck comes from one place or another mean they suddenly turn to shit people?
you think they will miss being dictated to by insurgence bureaucrats?
Your arguments are weak.

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Edited: 02/18/2020 at 06:55 PM by WG
 02/19/2020 03:41 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: WG

1) -- it will be the same damn doctor and nurses,


2) why would the fact that their paycheck comes from one place or another mean they suddenly turn to shit people?



1) No...in fact it wont!

2) Only the worst ones will stay as they figure that any paycheck is better than no paycheck! The best ones will leave! There will be no more competition for 'who is the best'...or most innovative.... as the best get paid THE MOST (now)! That wont happen with your bullshit government healthcare system.

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 02/19/2020 03:56 AM
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dingpatch

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But, then again, , , , , Denmark and Sweden are not known to "defend the world"??!!

I'm not too excited about being the World's Police, and would rather have it any other way but, what are we to do? Let the Taliban have Afghanistan. Let who-ever rape and pillage in Yemen? Let the BooBoo's kill off all the MooMoos in Nigeria?, etc. If we don't do it, who will? And, if nothing else we must STOP being the World's "Corporate Defenders".

Reduce our military presence around the world and make it very clear that if ANYBODY F's with us will kill them to a man and drive their wives and children before us. I DO NOT believe that "Collateral Damage" is a valid concern.
 02/19/2020 03:58 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: dingpatch
I DO NOT believe that "Collateral Damage" is a valid concern.


The Geneva Convention does....



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 02/19/2020 04:00 AM
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dingpatch

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I don't. I'm with Conan the Barbarian on this one.
 02/19/2020 04:06 AM
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Cole

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We controlled a large swath of Syria with 38 soldiers; far less violence, people living a regular life, no Russians and no Syrian government troops. Now it is fucking chaos and we have no say in the matter. We get the last say throughout a large part of the world because we hold control through soft power. How Trump and his voters don't see this as a positive for all involved is beyond me??

Edited: 02/19/2020 at 04:07 AM by Cole
 02/19/2020 08:33 AM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: Cole We controlled a large swath of Syria with 38 soldiers; far less violence, people living a regular life, no Russians and no Syrian government troops. Now it is fucking chaos and we have no say in the matter. We get the last say throughout a large part of the world because we hold control through soft power. How Trump and his voters don't see this as a positive for all involved is beyond me??
Oh that's good. I suppose that you'd like a return to the peace and harmony that Syria was experiencing under Obama?

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