Among people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2, unvaccinated individuals are more than 2x as likely to be reinfected than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus.

That's why I got the vax, even though I was exposed.

Lunch, I like your defense of the "lowly" orderly; he's a fellow worker and should be treated with respect. My point is that the media would have one believe that nurses are refusing to be vaccinated and that's not the case. It's a small minority.

Further, I agree that a Federal blanket mandate is an over reach. However that's not what we're talking about, this is a workplace safety mandate. If I worked in an enclosed space, I expect others there to be vaccinated.

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92% of the doctors in the US are vaccinated.

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I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing orderlies, etc. They are a vital part of a hospitals efficiency, just not so much its effectiveness. That was my point that was not very well stated.

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Cole any chance you're going to provide me a link (to the decades long trials)?

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Edited: 09/28/2021 at 08:13 AM by worksuxgetsponsered

Actually, I misheard.

http://www.ama-assn.org/press-...nated-against-covid-19

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You have been duped again. There is absolutely no way to know that unless everyone is tested once a week or so, which isn't happening.

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I'll wait.....

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http://historyofvaccines.blog/...-of-the-mrna-vaccines/

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I get what your saying and it's all in the interest of safety. It's just now that it's coming to the point where people are going to be fired if they're not vaccinated in months ago everybody said that wouldn't happen. It's like baby steps, if this is allowed then what's next? Fines and then imprisonment?

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

Edited: 09/28/2021 at 08:31 AM by Lunchmeat

If the general public was vaccinated at the same rate, the virus would be eliminated, we wouldn't have to worry about the future variants our kids will have to endure, and I wouldn't have canceled Tame Impala tickets.

I'll go with the peer reviewed scientific research conducted by a panel of highly qualified immunologists and medical professionals that were vetted for conflicts of interest.

That is a link to a blog where they discuss the various types of vaccines with NO discussion on long term trials nor data. Just somebody's blog. In fact here's a little excerpt:



At the same time they're tweaking formulations.

That's some great long term study.

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Both videos are eight hours of information. Sorry the data won't fit in a facebook meme or Patriot Post page.

The technology for the vaccine has been in the works since the early 90's. All the info is out there if you care to look, but then again, this is way more about politics than the safety and efficacy of a vaccine.

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Another thing I'm curious about is the fact That National Guard and reserves do not have to be vaccinated in till June 30 of 2022, so how messed up would that be if they fire these people and replace them with unvaccinated national guardsmen?

" The 485,900 soldiers on active duty must be vaccinated by Dec. 15. But the 336,500 National Guard and 189,800 Reserve troops have until June 30, 2022, to be fully inoculated."

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

Why would you care if you're vaccinated?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Because like all vaccines, they're not 100% effective and the risk of transmission approaches zero when the vaccination participation rate approaches 90%

Problem with this statement is you're assuming that COVID is only transmissible between humans. Thats one of the big "lies" being fed to you, comparing COVID and/or it's vaccine to things like Polio. It isn't.....at all. So what we're left with saying.....if I understand the logic....is the vaccinated know that the vaccine isn't 100% effective, but still seem to "want" others to take the jab so much as to wish for their unemployment/separation from society. Did you all wear white hoods in your previous life or something? Is "un-vaxxed" the new "black" for you bigots?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

That quip may be appropriate to some on here, but not me and I think you know better.



I have, but wonder if you did. You claimed there are decades long trials studying the long term effects, there are not. In fact the link you posted backed me up.



This we can agree on, but the difference is this: My hesitancy is based on science and the lack of long term studies altering RNA. I trust my immune system having been exposed in close contact now three different times. When Trump was touting they would have the vaccine by end of year, you and MANY others (that are now rabid vaccine pushers) scoffed at the idea proclaiming 'I'd never put that stuff in my body'. Hypothetical question for you here, if Trump won the election and were trying to force the injection with mandates and threatening livelihoods, Would you still be as adamant about forcing it on people? I tend to think the shoes would be on the opposite foot for a lot of people.

My opinion would still be the same.

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No, refusing to get vaccinated is not a crime. Not now, nor will it ever be. They aren't being "fired" as a punishment, they just can't be allowed into the workspace where they put others at risk.

It's a work requirement, for which they had ample time to comply, now they are no longer qualified.

The people who are trying to make into something more, like some sort of civil rights issue, are clearly doing it for political purposes.

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Edited: 09/28/2021 at 09:18 AM by RustyTruck