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Topic Title: Good Lawyers making mistakes. Topic Summary: Is Trump's legal team being hobbled by Trump? Created On: 05/14/2024 08:32 AM |
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05/14/2024 08:32 AM
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Mistakes abound. Why would good lawyers being making these mistakes?
>>First, Trump is largely unmanageable. He is unfocused and not as intelligent as he thinks he is. He may have had extensive experience as a civil litigant, but criminal litigation - particularly as a defendant - is very different. Even the lawyers who have joined Trump's legal team hoping to crack the code with him have ultimately been disappointed, diminished or both. They routinely leave or are fired. In the last year alone, these include: Tim Parlatore, Jim Trusty, John Rowley and Joe Tacopina. Second, Trump makes the key strategic decisions in his legal cases, including his criminal cases. Yes, he does so on the basis of his attorneys' advice - the ones working for him at the moment, at least - but he's the decider, as another former president once said. This is not surprising. It is as it should be, in fact. Clients are largely entitled to make the key strategic decisions in their cases, and attorneys are largely required to follow those decisions unless they independently run afoul of other ethical constraints. It is worth bearing this in mind at the moment - both because it is helpful for understanding what is going on in Trump's trial right now, and also because if Trump loses this case, he will probably start blaming his lawyers for decisions that he himself made. Third, Trump has two key strategies for defending himself in legal settings, and they are the same ones that he uses in political settings. First: Deny, deny, deny. And second: Attack, attack, attack. It's something he learned from Roy Cohn and has been deploying for 50 years. All of this has been on display in the course of Trump's trial. You could see Trump's handiwork in Blanche's opening denial of Daniels' account - a grievous strategic and tactical error for a serious lawyer. You could see it in Necheles' unpersuasive and protracted cross-examination of Daniels and in her unsuccessful effort to portray Daniels as a liar. And you could see it in Bove's disproportionately sharp cross-examinations of witnesses who should have been diminished and dismissed by Trump's team. These decisions are so obviously wrong as a strategic matter that it is frankly hard to believe that Trump's defense team all agreed with them. These lawyers are not a bunch of hacks, and they aren't dumb either. We may never know what went on within Trump's legal team headed into this trial - most if not all of that information is likely to remain shielded from public view - but they almost certainly tried and failed to talk Trump down from some of these approaches. As the government's case draws to a close after Cohen's testimony, Trump will have to make the most important decision in his legal cases to date: Should he take the stand in his own defense? The answer is clearly "no," and no competent defense lawyer would advise him to take the stand under the circumstances....<< http://www.politico.com/news/m...ers-mistakes-00157734 ------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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05/14/2024 08:45 AM
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That's the way it works in our business. Clients make the final call on the important things. When clients reject the advice of their counsel, some times it works out for them and sometimes it doesn't.
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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05/14/2024 09:09 AM
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Worked out great for him here: Donald Trump's Defense Missed Opportunity For Mistrial - Legal Analyst Only the best guys... yeah, lets make this fuckup President again lol ------------------------- Pro Puppy-Killer Party 2024 |
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05/14/2024 10:07 AM
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Trump began the trial in opening argument with the argument that he never had sex with Stormy Daniels. Way to jump start your credibility with the jury right at the beginning.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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05/14/2024 10:16 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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05/14/2024 10:17 AM
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Could he be trying to set up for requesting a new trial due to ineffective council, and delay the case until he can use the power of the White House to stop NY?
------------------------- "Hey, where's Cricket?" - Kristi Noem's daughter. |
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05/14/2024 11:22 AM
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Trump began the trial in opening argument with the argument that he never had sex with Stormy Daniels. Way to jump start your credibility with the jury right at the beginning. Only two people know the truth about that and we are not the two. and one of them is too much of a wimp to get on the stand hahaha ------------------------- Pro Puppy-Killer Party 2024 |
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05/14/2024 11:53 AM
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Trump's lawyers know he will be blaming them once anything goes wrong. My guess is that they have their directives from him in writing.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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05/14/2024 02:39 PM
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Trump's lawyers know he will be blaming them once anything goes wrong. My guess is that they have their directives from him in writing. I sure hope they got their pay up front. ------------------------- I was right. |
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05/14/2024 06:35 PM
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So Tpap, why did a notorious chintzer like Trump pay stormy 130k? Why did he hide it as legal fees? Maybe more than two people know based Trump's admissions to his sleazy lawyer and any reasonable inferences therefrom.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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05/14/2024 06:50 PM
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According the the latest polls, more than half of America knows ------------------------- Pro Puppy-Killer Party 2024 |
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05/14/2024 08:23 PM
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More the half always knew. Less than half knows too but doesn't believe. That's how cults continue in the face of facts.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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05/15/2024 06:56 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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05/15/2024 07:50 AM
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Why do Pro Puppy-Killers shoot puppies? ------------------------- Pro Puppy-Killer Party 2024 |
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