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Topic Title: The Ukraine war will end by noon today!
Topic Summary: Trump Promised he would end it in 24 hours of taking office
Created On: 01/21/2025 07:20 AM
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 02/12/2025 07:00 AM
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fishkller

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soooo.... Kamala was right

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 02/12/2025 07:03 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: fishkller

soooo.... Kamala was right


Harris as president. No chaos. Consumer protections would be safe. The economy would improve. Ukraine would be safe. Illness would be dealt with.

Thanks for nothing Trumpers.



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 02/12/2025 10:36 AM
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Bamboo

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Hey!
So Trump is making progress.
he and Putin did talk and they are making plans on how to end the war in Ukraine.

But they forgot to let the Ukrainians know and participate in the conversation.

Anybody wanna bet that Trump wants to give Putin as much of Ukraine as possible?

In any case, it is still going on...but they are forming the concepts of a plan.


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 02/12/2025 11:07 AM
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Now that foreign bribes are "very legal and very cool" why not negotiate himself a deal?
 02/12/2025 11:24 AM
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fishkller

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soooo.... Kamala was right

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 02/12/2025 11:44 AM
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Pence the irrelevant has weighed in:
>>Former Vice President Mike Pence took issue Tuesday with President Trump saying Ukraine "may be Russian someday."

"Mr. President, Ukraine will only 'be Russian someday' if the United States abandons them to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's brutal invasion. As you just said, 'When America is Strong the World is at Peace.' Stand Firm," Pence said in a post on social platform X highlighted by Mediaite.

"If Ukraine falls, it will only be a matter of time until Russia invades a NATO ally our troops will be required to defend," he added.<<

Its ironic that Pence lays this out for Trump like Trump doesn't understand exactly what abandoning Ukraine means. Pence thinks Trump can be reasoned with. Its just so stupid and naive that its boggling. Even more astounding is that if Pence had any sway at all with Trump, who could not have cared less if Pence was hung on January 6, he would still be the VP. Instead, he's a christian pundit with as many as one hudred followers.

Trump wants Ukraine to fall, Trump wants to weaken Nato and Trump will not go against Putin.

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 02/12/2025 12:08 PM
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Bamboo

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Good for pence, but way too late.
zMAGA hate him for actually doing what he was supposed to do per the constitution.

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 02/12/2025 12:19 PM
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Pence was a tool the Trump used to get the Evangelicals on board. Pence delivered. Pence was consumed, digested and shitted out and look the evangelicals now, still supporting their broken vessel Trump while he is relegated to a footnote.

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 02/13/2025 06:05 AM
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Cole

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This is the same tact Trump used when he handed Afghanistan to the Taliban. Ukraine should be very afraid.

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 02/13/2025 06:57 AM
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Trump thinks he can "save lives" by rewarding Russia for its invasion and war crimes. Hegseth, the military man from the inside, can't see any future in fighting Putin the surrender monkey just gave up the game. It's like he's playing poker with his cards backwards. Protecting a democracy from an imperialist invasion just sounds like too much for the new United States of Trump. Instead, he's focusing on invading Gaza, removing all the Palestinians, forcing them into the surrounding Arab countries as refugees with no promise of aid and giving Israel all that real estate as gift that the U.S. protects with its troops. So no, we refuse to be the world's policeman but we will be policing Gaza for Israel.

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 02/13/2025 07:46 AM
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Hell, if he was just gonna buckle and surrender as Kamala predicted, at least he could have given his Magaroobs a reach-around and done it on Day One.

Now he's late AND castrated.

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 02/14/2025 04:55 AM
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Still going on.
Vance meets with Zelensky today.
Hopefully that goes well.

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Edited: 02/14/2025 at 05:04 AM by Bamboo
 02/14/2025 05:53 AM
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Cole

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Trump sold the Kurds out to Syria, too. 5,000 Taliban fighters were released from prison. Afghanistan was given to the terrorists.

A massive Trump fail.





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 02/14/2025 06:45 AM
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Zelensky is no dummy. He actually warns to save lives and not use it as cover for rewarding Russian imperialism. Let's see if Vance can explain the trump Putin love affair to the guy who has actual skin in the game.

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 02/14/2025 12:18 PM
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Trump said Russia lost lives in the taking of land, so they should be able to keep it. That is the idiocy maga has straddled us with.

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 02/15/2025 05:31 AM
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Zelensky should do a trump: treat your friends like enemies and your enemies like friends. He should meet meet with Xi, broker a deal to have China mine its rare earth minerals, split China from Russia, screw the U.S. and wall the U S. from the Chinese monopoly on rare earth minerals as they receive billions in Chinese drones and munitions.

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 02/15/2025 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Zelensky should do a trump: treat your friends like enemies and your enemies like friends. He should meet meet with Xi, broker a deal to have China mine its rare earth minerals, split China from Russia, screw the U.S. and wall the U S. from the Chinese monopoly on rare earth minerals as they receive billions in Chinese drones and munitions.


Someone has finally come up with a good idea! The EU should do the same.


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 02/15/2025 06:50 AM
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China would drop Russia faster than musk did to his trans kid.

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 02/15/2025 01:50 PM
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Yup! Beat 'em at their own game Zelenskyy!

Zelenskyy is WAY smarter than the MAGAs and has 10,000x the courage.

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 02/17/2025 08:12 AM
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johnnyboy

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There was commentator on the radio this morning that summed up the current situation perfectly, Ukraine is on the menu but not at the table.

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FORUMS : National Enquirer (FORMERLY NSR) : The Ukraine war will end by noon today!

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