2nd Light Forums |
Topic Title: Calling Fish Killer, , , , , , , Topic Summary: Created On: 04/24/2018 06:00 PM |
Linear : Threading : Single : Branch |
- dingpatch | - 04/24/2018 06:00 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/25/2018 04:05 AM |
- Cole | - 04/25/2018 05:34 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/25/2018 05:36 AM |
- Cole | - 04/25/2018 05:45 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/25/2018 07:10 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/25/2018 07:22 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/25/2018 07:28 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/25/2018 07:36 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/25/2018 07:45 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/25/2018 08:10 AM |
- stokedpanda | - 04/25/2018 07:55 AM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/25/2018 05:24 AM |
- StirfryMcflurry | - 04/25/2018 05:31 AM |
- chopola | - 04/25/2018 06:31 AM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/25/2018 08:15 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/25/2018 08:22 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/25/2018 08:39 AM |
- Cole | - 04/25/2018 09:39 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/26/2018 04:14 AM |
- Plan B | - 04/26/2018 04:59 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/26/2018 08:39 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/26/2018 05:15 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/28/2018 06:54 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/28/2018 08:16 AM |
- scombrid | - 04/28/2018 02:02 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/28/2018 04:01 PM |
- Cole | - 04/28/2018 11:32 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/28/2018 04:02 PM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/26/2018 05:27 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/26/2018 07:09 AM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/26/2018 07:11 AM |
- fishkller | - 04/26/2018 09:04 AM |
- Bamboo | - 04/27/2018 02:31 AM |
- worksuxgetsponsered | - 04/27/2018 05:48 AM |
- sandi | - 04/29/2018 10:34 PM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/28/2018 01:53 PM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/29/2018 07:17 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/29/2018 12:50 PM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/29/2018 02:53 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/29/2018 06:06 PM |
- sandi | - 04/29/2018 10:35 PM |
- johnnyboy | - 04/29/2018 06:12 PM |
- sandi | - 04/29/2018 10:32 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 04/30/2018 04:44 AM |
- Cole | - 04/30/2018 05:20 AM |
- sandi | - 04/30/2018 05:27 AM |
Topic Tools
|
04/24/2018 06:00 PM
|
|
Snopes Is a Sneaky Liar About California's Bill To Ban Christian LGBT Talk
Read the bill. There is no religious exemption. There is no restriction to mental health professionals. This is not simply a 'gay conversion ban.' http://thefederalist.com/2018/...n-christian-lgbt-talk/ ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 04:05 AM
|
|
Like I've said many times to date....Snopes is a commie liberal POS fake news site used to 'debunk' nothing!
It has a serious left wing commie bias and at this point can not be trusted to determine if baby shit is actually shit! Fact! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 05:34 AM
|
|
Jesus, what a bunch of bullshit.
The bill says you can't try to reprogram gay kids under the age of 18. If there was any real issue, it would be brought up under a constitutional conflict. Snopes is right. The Federalist - as usual - is wrong. ------------------------- I was right. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 05:36 AM
|
|
The bill says you can't try to reprogram gay kids under the age of 18. If there was any real issue, it would be brought up under a constitutional conflict. LIAR! http://www.westernjournal.com/...utm_content=2018-04-24 ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 05:45 AM
|
|
The Federalist guy wordsmithed a whole bunch of nothing. Meaningless dribble.
Snopes doesn't have the last say, in fact, Snopes has nothing to do with it at all. If there was a real issue, it would be taken up with California's version of the rules chairman. ------------------------- I was right. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 07:10 AM
|
|
The Federalist guy wordsmithed a whole bunch of nothing. Meaningless dribble. BULLSHIT! The Federalist guy explained it in easy to read 3rd grade ENGLISH! He didn't mince words either....LIKE YOU DO! Snopes doesn't have the last say, in fact, Snopes has nothing to do with it at all. If there was a real issue, it would be taken up with California's version of the rules chairman. If? It's a Socialist/ Communist AGENDA! Plain and simple! Snopes is attempting to further the cause and blurr the lines! Snopes literally bald faced lied!@ Just like you do! MORON! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 07:22 AM
|
|
Federalist Papers is just a propaganda front for The Heartland Institute. It is just a big corporate shill for multinational energy and agriculture conglomerates. Its sole function is to keep the rubes shooting themselves in their political feet. ------------------------- ... |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 07:28 AM
|
|
You might ask youself why the Heartland Institute which spent most of its existence as an anti-environment lobby working on behalf of coal, oil, and ag decided in 2013 to create "thefederalistpapers" website to state banging so hard on social issues like LGBT rights and gay marriage. The correct answer is "wedge issues". Heartland created Rush Limbaugh in the 1980s to try to help their battle against regulations on sulfur and CFC emissions. That is the kind of stuff that was their bread and butter. But they realized that they can get a lot more traction with social wedge issues. Thing is, they don't actually care about social issues. Their end game is that they want to exteranlize as much of their respective industries business costs onto the public while hoarding profits. ------------------------- ... |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 07:36 AM
|
|
You might ask youself why the Heartland Institute which spent most of its existence as an anti-environment lobby working on behalf of coal, oil, and ag decided in 2013 to create "thefederalistpapers" website to state banging so hard on social issues like LGBT rights and gay marriage. The correct answer is "wedge issues". Heartland created Rush Limbaugh in the 1980s to try to help their battle against regulations on sulfur and CFC emissions. That is the kind of stuff that was their bread and butter. But they realized that they can get a lot more traction with social wedge issues. Thing is, they don't actually care about social issues. Their end game is that they want to exteranlize as much of their respective industries business costs onto the public while hoarding profits. I LOVE how you THINK you know so much about The Federalist Papers and The Heartland Institute! You dont know SHIT! This comment is beyond laughable! "Their end game is that they want to exteranlize as much of their respective industries business costs onto the public while hoarding profits" Seriously. Fool! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 07:45 AM
|
|
I've been following The Heartland Institute around since the 1980s. Heartland took the position that acid rain is completely natural and not caused by sulfur emissions. Heartland took the position that second hand smoke was harmless. It published articles and editorials and fed Limbaughs news feed talking points on these issues all while being funded by BP Amoco, ExxonMobile, RJ Reynolds, Weyerhauser, Philip Morris, etc... Weyerhauser wanted to cut the last 1/2% of virgin timber remaining in an area and ran up against tree huggers and the ESA. Magically Rush Limbaugh became obsessed with Spotted Owls and the ESA as he gleefully farted out what Heartland fed his ticker. They blamed the loss of logging jobs out their on regulations. Umm, well you guys could cut that last little bit of big timber but that will keep the mill open for maybe another year. Fast is, all the big trees are gone. It is just pulp wood and slash timber anymore and you can't keep the mills build for big timber running on that stuff. Its been smoke and mirrors from day-1. I know a lot of conservatives (Alex Jones types) like to join they crazy Jenny McCarthy type liberals in denouncing "Big Pharma". Jones loves his "Big Pharma" conspiracy theories. GlaxoSmithLkine, Pfizer, Amgen, Bayer, Eli Lilly are all huge contributers to Heartland. After the 2008 and 2012 presidential losses they realized that fake grass roots on social media was the ticket. Hence the creation of online presence like FederalistPapers and its many many many mirrors. ------------------------- ... Edited: 04/25/2018 at 08:03 AM by scombrid |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 08:10 AM
|
|
I've been following The Heartland Institute around since the 1980s. Heartland took the position that acid rain is completely natural and not caused by sulfur emissions. Heartland took the position that second hand smoke was harmless. It published articles and editorials and fed Limbaughs news feed talking points on these issues all while being funded by BP Amoco, ExxonMobile, RJ Reynolds, Weyerhauser, Philip Morris, etc... Weyerhauser wanted to cut the last 1/2% of virgin timber remaining in an area and ran up against tree huggers and the ESA. Magically Rush Limbaugh became obsessed with Spotted Owls and the ESA as he gleefully farted out what Heartland fed his ticker. They blamed the loss of logging jobs out their on regulations. Umm, well you guys could cut that last little bit of big timber but that will keep the mill open for maybe another year. Fast is, all the big trees are gone. It is just pulp wood and slash timber anymore and you can't keep the mills build for big timber running on that stuff. Its been smoke and mirrors from day-1. I know a lot of conservatives (Alex Jones types) like to join they crazy Jenny McCarthy type liberals in denouncing "Big Pharma". Jones loves his "Big Pharma" conspiracy theories. GlaxoSmithLkine, Pfizer, Amgen, Bayer, Eli Lilly are all huge contributers to Heartland. After the 2008 and 2012 presidential losses they realized that fake grass roots on social media was the ticket. Hence the creation of online presence like FederalistPapers and its many many many mirrors. You really should get your facts straight. http://fakegate.org/the-heartl...institute-and-tobacco/ ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 07:55 AM
|
|
Thing is, they don't actually care about social issues. Their end game is that they want to exteranlize as much of their respective industries business costs onto the public while hoarding profits. dilly dilly ------------------------- I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 05:24 AM
|
|
How were you cured fishy. Sometimes you sound like an smoker complaining about smoke in the wind.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 05:31 AM
|
|
calling dingy - troll tribute threads will always suck - this one in a keep fighting windmills kinda weigh |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 06:31 AM
|
|
Sounds to me like Cal. is making child rearing rules. Just another reason to get the heck out of there.
|
|
|
|
04/25/2018 08:15 AM
|
|
The guy who posted RT fake news that be took into his lying gullet hook line and sinker is telling someone else to get their facts straight. Great.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 08:22 AM
|
|
So he links to a blog produced by The Heartland Institute that re-iterates Heartland talking points that are sanitized and spun.
------------------------- ... |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 08:39 AM
|
|
The 'science' that Heartland used was Philip Morris funded junk. This is right out of the "merchants of doubt" playbook; right up to the loaded "demonize smokers" loaded language. Smokers have been treated as victims more than demonized in any way. This talking point is the tip of their obfuscation campaign they waged on behalf of Tobacco companies that knowingly and deliberately sold an addictive chemical while hiding information on addiction that they possessed from the public. Their hiding the information they possessed on addiction it what made them liable.
See the above statement on liability. Smoking bans did not end up putting a net "hurt" on small business. You're business selling and servicing air cleaners might have taken a hit and the store that sells cigarettes might have been hit. But the restaurants and bars and such? No. Business did not drop because people could no longer smoke inside. Business may have increased. I quit going to dive bars because I got sick of the smoke. Now I'll pop in for a whiskey when the mood strikes. Also, your private property rights as a public business are limited in a lot of ways. They are limited by what is allowed to drift from your property. Cities may regulate what kind of signs you have or what you put on the sidewalk. Businesses are limited by the ADA and Civil Rights Act of 1964. Public accomodations have always been subject to a different standard from you residence. This ultimately causes the same harm to the smoking related businesses that are hurt by a smoking ban. It is just a softer roll out if it works. Of course Philip Morris shilling through Heartland is counting on their disinformation counter-education campaign to work and nullify and anti-smoking education campaign. This is the one area where I agree with CATO-Heartland etc... Sin taxes are stupid. I have a virtual essay somewhere in the archives on here where I've expounded on why. It is one of my hobby horses to whip.
------------------------- ... |
|
|
|
04/25/2018 09:39 PM
|
|
You really should get your facts straight.
His are perfectly straight. Your's took a hard 90 and drove off a cliff. ------------------------- I was right. |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 04:14 AM
|
|
You really should get your facts straight. His are perfectly straight. Your's took a hard 90 and drove off a cliff. Ummmm....hell no! The FACTS I got were straight from the president of the Heartland Institute. Joseph Bast President The Heartland Institute FOOL! "You may or may not agree with us on each of these points, but after reading the full essay and some of the sources it links to, you will be persuaded that they are based on real research and the findings of credible experts. "Forecast the Facts" falsely claims that we take the positions we do because we are funded by tobacco companies. In fact, tobacco companies have never contributed more than 2 percent of our total income in a given year. I repeat: Not more than 2 percent. Our positions on tobacco control are based on facts and principles, not on who funds us. Anti-smoking groups exaggerate the dangers of smoking, second-hand smoke, and smokeless tobacco products in order to support their agenda of higher taxes, more regulations, and subsidies. We've certainly earned their enmity for pointing this out, but it is untrue to claim that we are misleading the public, denying a very real public health problem, or in some other way are behaving badly. We are not." ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 04:59 AM
|
|
LOL! |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 08:39 AM
|
|
Did he have a little tear in his eye when he gave his testimony. That always makes it more believable. Ask Bill. ------------------------- ... |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 05:15 AM
|
|
I don't smoke OR drink.....but there is no difference between the alcohol industry and the tobacco industry.
Both kill people and ruin families. Both have people horribly hooked (addicted). Why exactly is one allowed to prosper while the other is doomed to extinction? Both are regulated just one way more than the other! I'll tell you why....liberal control freaks! Yet they want to legalize weed....just like tobacco! It's all about control and money (taxes). And you FOOLS just eat it up! MORONS and HYPOCRITES...every one of you! FACT! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/28/2018 06:54 AM
|
|
Indeed. The few huge megacorporations that control most world wide alcohol mass production contribute to Heartland along with Reynolds and Philip Morris. They too did not want any smoking bans and such. And yet Heartland has always downplayed the danger of smoking and second hand smoke. I've never seen an educational campaign against booze or cigarettes from them. They oppose the strict labelling laws, local bans, etc... They say it is about personal freedom but then you come around to their ultimate goal of protecting the industry. I have a 1998 editorial by Joe Bast in which he claims that second hand smoke is virtually harmless, that moderate smoking has no adverse health effects, and that complains that liberals just want to bankrupt the tobacco industry. The pro-pot libertarians and liberals only dangle the tax revenue apple in front of the religious folks as a means to an end. Funny thing is seeing how many good conservatives bite that apple on gambling, pot, booze, etc...
------------------------- ... |
|
|
|
04/28/2018 08:16 AM
|
|
Indeed. The few huge megacorporations that control most world wide alcohol mass production contribute to Heartland along with Reynolds and Philip Morris. They too did not want any smoking bans and such. And yet Heartland has always downplayed the danger of smoking and second hand smoke. I've never seen an educational campaign against booze or cigarettes from them. They oppose the strict labelling laws, local bans, etc... They say it is about personal freedom but then you come around to their ultimate goal of protecting the industry. I have a 1998 editorial by Joe Bast in which he claims that second hand smoke is virtually harmless, that moderate smoking has no adverse health effects, and that complains that liberals just want to bankrupt the tobacco industry. The pro-pot libertarians and liberals only dangle the tax revenue apple in front of the religious folks as a means to an end. Funny thing is seeing how many good conservatives bite that apple on gambling, pot, booze, etc... What the hell is your obsession with Heartland, scumbird? Really....GET A LIFE! Alcohol AND Tobacco BOTH kill people.... BOTH horribly ruin families! FACT! NO amount of your bullshit Heartland will change that...or down play one like you have! IDIOT! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/28/2018 02:02 PM
|
|
Alcohol AND Tobacco BOTH kill people.... Joe Bast as the president of the Heartland Institute says that a few cigarettes a day never hurt anybody. ------------------------- ... |
|
|
|
04/28/2018 04:01 PM
|
|
Alcohol AND Tobacco BOTH kill people.... Joe Bast as the president of the Heartland Institute says that a few cigarettes a day never hurt anybody. So the fuck what! What the fuck does that have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING?!~?!?! It doesn't! MORON! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/28/2018 11:32 AM
|
|
Heartland created the monster. They are the problem. Everyone who knows what they do hates them, as well they should.
FK is a reform violent addict, hence the overuse of religion and righteousness. He is speaking first hand. The bad part is the fact that the asshole in him was too entrenched to be freed by being born again. ------------------------- I was right. |
|
|
|
04/28/2018 04:02 PM
|
|
Heartland created the monster. Heartland didn't create shit! FUCKING LIAR! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 05:27 AM
|
|
Maybe you should smoke or drink. The "science" behind it is more persuasive every time it's restated. What kind of junk science did you buy into where it's okay to not to exercise your freedom to drink and smoke?
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 07:09 AM
|
|
Maybe you should smoke or drink. The "science" behind it is more persuasive every time it's restated. What kind of junk science did you buy into where it's okay to not to exercise your freedom to drink and smoke? ...actually you should be telling that to scumbird. ...i really dont care one way or the other....but he OBVIOUSLY does. ...and he loves control just as much as YOU do! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 07:11 AM
|
|
Cigarettes and alcohol are safe and fun. Why aren't you?
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/26/2018 09:04 AM
|
|
What this arguement needs are some FK memes! ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
|
|
|
04/27/2018 02:31 AM
|
|
...and more cowbell!!! ------------------------- If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV |
|
|
|
04/27/2018 05:48 AM
|
|
------------------------- Specializing in sarcasm and condescending rhetoric since 1971. |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 10:34 PM
|
|
and... POPCORN PLEASE. this is about to get funny. |
|
|
|
04/28/2018 01:53 PM
|
|
It's like the clues are beating fishy over the head and instead beating some sense into him, it's just making him punch drunk.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 07:17 AM
|
|
Punch drunk. These are pretty easy connections to make fishy.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 12:50 PM
|
|
Punch drunk. These are pretty easy connections to make fishy. Your conspiracy theories are hysterical! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 02:53 PM
|
|
You're denials are incoherent. That's a lot of f bombs too. You seem to lost it.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 06:06 PM
|
|
You're denials are incoherent. That's a lot of f bombs too. You seem to lost it. When you get an indictment get back with me. Till then STFU! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 10:35 PM
|
|
You're denials are incoherent. That's a lot of f bombs too. You seem to lost it. When you get an indictment get back with me. Till then STFU! PLEASE LOSE THE FISH. NO ONE IS IMPRESSED, AND THEY ARE STARTING TO SMELL... |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 06:12 PM
|
|
The indictment will come. You will not be convinced then either. You have made up your mind and the facts cannot change it.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
|
|
|
04/29/2018 10:32 PM
|
|
The indictment will come. You will not be convinced then either. You have made up your mind and the facts cannot change it. So true. Like a dog on a leash... |
|
|
|
04/30/2018 04:44 AM
|
|
The indictment will come. You will not be convinced then either. You have made up your mind and the facts cannot change it. Thats what you've been saying for a year and a half! It's a lie! Plain and simple! You're really going to eat shit when Mueller steps down! I will NEVER let you forget it either! FOOL! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
|
|
|
04/30/2018 05:20 AM
|
|
Don Jr and Kushner willingly met with a self professed Russian agent.
Trump admitted to spending the night in Russia, which he officially denied. Trump officials are being tied with Assange, who's Wikileaks disseminated the stolen information from the DNC. Yep, nothing to see here. If this was Clinton or Obama, would you still be in such a rush to end the investigation? No, I didn't think so. ------------------------- I was right. |
|
|
|
04/30/2018 05:27 AM
|
|
TRUTH!
|
|
|
FORUMS
:
National Enquirer (FORMERLY NSR)
:
Calling Fish Killer, , , , , , ,
|
Topic Tools
|
FuseTalk Basic Edition - © 1999-2024 FuseTalk Inc. All rights reserved.
First there was Air Jordan .