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Topic Title: Here comes 12 / Larry?
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Created On: 08/31/2021 02:58 PM
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 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 08/31/2021 02:58 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - LBLarry - 08/31/2021 03:53 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 08/31/2021 05:19 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - jdbman - 09/01/2021 04:07 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Greensleeves - 09/01/2021 06:08 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - LaJune - 09/01/2021 06:13 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/01/2021 08:13 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - LBLarry - 09/01/2021 11:30 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - surferclimber - 09/01/2021 07:18 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - paddleout - 09/01/2021 10:43 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 08/31/2021 04:02 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - stokedpanda - 09/01/2021 09:33 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - rc - 09/01/2021 04:03 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/01/2021 06:11 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - johnnyboy - 09/01/2021 04:03 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/02/2021 04:15 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/02/2021 04:56 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/02/2021 06:37 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - RiddleMe - 09/02/2021 07:29 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/02/2021 09:13 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - mp2115 - 09/02/2021 09:30 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - RiddleMe - 09/02/2021 10:01 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - StirfryMcflurry - 09/02/2021 10:29 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/02/2021 03:08 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/02/2021 04:55 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Long Beard - 09/02/2021 09:39 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - 1974 - 09/02/2021 05:38 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - ww - 09/02/2021 09:00 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Cole - 09/03/2021 07:07 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - tom - 09/03/2021 08:15 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/03/2021 08:23 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/03/2021 07:48 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Greensleeves - 09/03/2021 07:58 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - stokedpanda - 09/03/2021 09:16 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - StirfryMcflurry - 09/03/2021 10:28 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - long_flaco1 - 09/03/2021 01:13 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/03/2021 06:58 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - RiddleMe - 09/04/2021 04:51 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - mp2115 - 09/04/2021 06:47 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/04/2021 09:54 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - jdbman - 09/07/2021 03:16 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/07/2021 04:13 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/07/2021 04:18 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - jdbman - 09/08/2021 04:26 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - rc - 09/04/2021 03:24 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/05/2021 08:55 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - IamSAW2 - 09/06/2021 06:26 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - rc - 09/04/2021 03:27 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - StirfryMcflurry - 09/04/2021 04:56 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/05/2021 04:11 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/05/2021 04:13 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Greensleeves - 09/06/2021 06:59 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/06/2021 08:14 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/06/2021 08:18 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - tom - 09/06/2021 10:17 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/06/2021 10:45 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Lunchmeat - 09/06/2021 12:21 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - jdbman - 09/06/2021 01:40 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Kimo63 - 09/06/2021 02:05 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/06/2021 02:22 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - seaspray - 09/06/2021 03:57 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - SrfGtr - 09/06/2021 05:13 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - seaspray - 09/06/2021 05:20 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - RocketSurf - 09/06/2021 06:27 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/07/2021 04:23 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - jdbman - 09/07/2021 05:21 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/07/2021 05:58 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/07/2021 08:39 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/07/2021 09:55 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/07/2021 10:10 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/07/2021 10:29 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - johnnyboy - 09/07/2021 10:42 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - IamSAW2 - 09/07/2021 10:50 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - KP - 09/07/2021 08:46 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - ww - 09/08/2021 02:44 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - mp2115 - 09/08/2021 05:33 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - seaspray - 09/08/2021 05:58 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - mp2115 - 09/07/2021 10:51 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - mp2115 - 09/07/2021 11:02 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - seaspray - 09/07/2021 02:00 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Kimo63 - 09/07/2021 02:36 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - RiddleMe - 09/07/2021 04:58 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - wtf - 09/07/2021 04:36 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - chopola - 09/07/2021 07:18 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - ww - 09/07/2021 07:39 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/08/2021 06:07 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - tom - 09/08/2021 06:50 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - RiddleMe - 09/08/2021 08:58 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/08/2021 09:05 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/08/2021 09:32 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - seaspray - 09/08/2021 10:30 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - StirfryMcflurry - 09/08/2021 11:35 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - IamSAW2 - 09/08/2021 12:11 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - WG - 09/08/2021 01:08 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - RocketSurf - 09/08/2021 03:06 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - LBLarry - 09/08/2021 03:20 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - seaspray - 09/08/2021 04:29 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/09/2021 02:12 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - StirfryMcflurry - 09/09/2021 02:42 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - tom - 09/09/2021 02:44 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - scombrid - 09/09/2021 03:01 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - LaJune - 09/08/2021 03:22 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - mp2115 - 09/09/2021 04:02 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Central Floridave - 09/09/2021 10:25 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - onebuck - 09/09/2021 11:08 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - johnnyboy - 09/10/2021 11:23 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Greensleeves - 09/10/2021 01:08 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - equipeola - 09/10/2021 02:04 PM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - Plan B - 09/12/2021 05:25 AM  
 Here comes 12 / Larry?   - johnnyboy - 09/12/2021 05:43 AM  
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Plan B

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Could we finally have a solid swell producing "fish" storm? Looks like it. Doesnt look to get close enough to get huge, but I'll take some solid clean long period swell, esp after the past few years.... and I'll be happy to drive 10 minutes, not 10 hours for good surf too.... 60H 03/0600Z 13.3N 36.5W 70 KT 80 MPH 72H 03/1800Z 14.3N 39.0W 80 KT 90 MPH 96H 04/1800Z 16.5N 43.5W 85 KT 100 MPH 120H 05/1800Z 19.5N 47.5W 90 KT 105 MPH

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Plan B .... I will do what I can for ya and speak to my other brother Larry


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Originally posted by: LBLarry Plan B .... I will do what I can for ya and speak to my other brother Larry [IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]
Tell Larry to wash down some steroids with alot of warm seawater...... then twist one and chill in place for a few days... for the Newhart reference though

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WTNT42 KNHC 010858
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Tropical Storm Larry Discussion Number 3
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL122021
800 AM CVT Wed Sep 01 2021

Deep convection with cloud tops colder than -80C have increased over
and to the west of the low-level center since the previous advisory.
Subjective satellite intensity estimates at 0600 UTC from TAFB and
SAB were T2.5/35 kt and T3.0/45 kt, while the most recent objective
intensity estimates from UW-CIMSS are T2.8/41 kt from ADT and 37 kt
from SATCON. An average of these intensity estimates support
increasing the advisory intensity to 40 kt, making the cyclone
Tropical Storm Larry. In addition, 0300 UTC and 0700 UTC
observations from ship VRNF3, which recently passed through the
center of Larry, reported a pressure of 1006.8 mb and winds near 25
kt. These data were the basis for the estimated central pressure of
1003 mb, a pressure value that also supports an intensity of 40 kt.

Larry has turned more westward over the past several hours, and the
new motion estimate is 280/17 kt. Larry is expected to move around
the southern and southwestern periphery of the sprawling
Bermuda-Azores ridge for the next 5 days, resulting in a general
west motion for the next 36 hours or so, followed by a turn toward
the west-northwest on Friday, and a northwestward motion over the
weekend and continuing into early next week. There has been a
pronounced westward shift in the track guidance for this cycle, with
the greatest shift coming from the GFS model. Over the past 36
hours, the GFS has shifted its track westward by more than 500 nmi,
and even the latest shift still keeps the GFS model the easternmost
track forecast in the guidance suite. In contrast, the ECMWF and
UKMET models, which lie along the westernmost portion of the
guidance envelope, have been fairly stable. Owing to the westward
shift in the overall guidance envelope, and considering the GFS
solution as an outlier model, the new NHC forecast track has also
been shifted westward, and lies between the NOAA-HCCA
corrected-consensus model to the south, and the tightly packed TVCA
simple-consensus model and FSSE corrected-consensus model to the
north. Given the poor handling of the ridge to the north of Larry by
the GFS, subsequent NHC forecast tracks may have to be shifted
farther west.

Given the improved inner-core wind field based on earlier ASCAT wind
data and reports from ship VRNF3, along with warm sea-surface
temperatures of 28 deg C and light easterly to southeasterly
vertical shear of around 5 kt, steady strengthening is expected for
the next 24 hours or so. By 36 hours when Larry is expected to be a
hurricane and have a well-established and tighter inner-core wind
field and possibly an eye, rapid intensification is forecast, with
Larry becoming a major hurricane by 72 hour. This in large part due
to the massive equatorward upper-level outflow pattern that all
of the global and regional models are forecasting, which is the
same type of outflow pattern that recently occurred with Hurricane
Ida. The new official intensity forecast is above the previous
advisory forecast by about 10 kt at all forecast times, and
conservatively follows an average of the Decay-SHIPS, COAMPS-TC,
FSSE, and ECMWF models. This intensity forecast is near the upper
end of the guidance envelope and is above the other consensus
intensity models.

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Man that 5AM update on Larry said everything a tropical swell starved surfer wants to hear.

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Larry, tell your brother to SLOW DOWN! no need to be in such a rush....
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Originally posted by: Plan B

Larry, tell your brother to SLOW DOWN! no need to be in such a rush....


Trying dude, trying. Talking to him about doing the Belle stall and slow crawl



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The intensity guidance basically keeps a steady intensity from 60-120 h, and the official forecast follows that trend. However, this part of the intensity forecast is in the middle of the guidance, and it is possible Larry could be stronger than forecast during this time..... Sooooo are they saying just might be cat 10 perfect set up for swell next week, let's hope he doesn't decided to visit land anywhere!!!

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Major hurricane by Friday-wow.
Cat3 by Saturday. Here's hoping Larry stays far offshore.

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Wake me up when it happens. But, thanks for setting the alarm clock!
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come on ride that train choochoo and ride it!

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I have an older brother named Larry, does that help?
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Originally posted by: rc I have an older brother named Larry, does that help?
The more Larrys the better!
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It's gonna be good it's gonna be good it's gonna be good.

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Time to up the laps in the pool!
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EURO predicting a tighter more intense storm (borderline cat4) but more importantly slower moving, giving us an extra day of swell..... GFS, slightly less intense, but broader windfield (good), but moving faster...... this year, GFS has seemed to be more accurate, but looks like NHC is siding with the EURO, so we'll see..... good waves either way, as long as local winds cooperate, still a week out, so we'll which day is worth playing hookey..... Yes, I am a nerd

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Check those virtual buoys! Wowsa... Yes, please be favorable local winds. We need this. been a long time since big swell around these parts.
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Looking forward to the well over head 3 block long close outs.
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Originally posted by: RiddleMe Looking forward to the well over head 3 block long close outs.
There's always "That guy"
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Originally posted by: Plan B
Originally posted by: RiddleMe Looking forward to the well over head 3 block long close outs.
There's always "That guy"
There will be some rainbows just gotta to some homework where this swell will break.
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Originally posted by: mp2115

Originally posted by: Plan B

Originally posted by: RiddleMe

Looking forward to the well over head 3 block long close outs.


There's always "That guy" [IMG][/IMG]


There will be some rainbows just gotta to some homework where this swell will break. [IMG]i/expressions/sun.gif" border="0[/IMG]


I was serious. Any surf is better than no surf.

Yes, I know where to go. I just don't want to drive and the place nearby that will break it up some will be a zoo.
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Does this mean... waves for NKF finals Monday? or no.... Hype alert
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Once Larry completes the ongoing ERC, significant or even rapid intensification is anticipated. The short-term intensity forecast has been raised a bit more, since it appears more likely the present ERC will finish in the next 6-12 h. The latest NHC intensity forecast now makes Larry a major hurricane by tomorrow night, with further intensification up to Category 4 intensity anticipated by Sunday. Once again, there remains some discrepancy in the vertical wind shear forecast between the GFS- and ECMWF-based SHIPS guidance, with the ECMWF forecasting significantly more southwesterly shear beyond 72 hours. Both guidance tools also indicate a decrease in mid-level relative humidity which, if the shear materializes, could disrupt Larry's inner core structure. Thus, the NHC intensity forecast still shows gradual weakening from 72 to 120 hours. The latest intensity forecast is just a hair above HCCA in the short term, with the intensity forecast most closely following the latest COAMPS-TC (CTCI) guidance in the first three days 60H 05/0600Z 18.3N 48.6W 120 KT 140 MPH Looking VERY similar to this classic (name this storm... no cheating)

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Originally posted by: Plan B

Originally posted by: RiddleMe

Looking forward to the well over head 3 block long close outs.


There's always "That guy"



I mean he aint lying.


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Originally posted by: Long Beard
Originally posted by: Plan B
Originally posted by: RiddleMe

Looking forward to the well over head 3 block long close outs.


There's always "That guy" [IMG][/IMG]


I mean he aint lying.


Hahaha yeah I was going to say, "He has a point there.."



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    Looks like a big, powerful storm. Surfline, for once, might be a bit conservative. Not expecting anything like Logan Hayes, March 2018.


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Originally posted by: RiddleMe

Looking forward to the well over head 3 block long close outs.



It might be far enough out to override our shitty Floridian luck for once. And it will be from the south so I'll be able to skip on RC's and the like. Our hood has a good bar too, if you know where to look.


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Predicted 16 sec period? I think 3 block closeouts may be conservative. Anticipation.

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Spots that normally are mushy lazy waves may become good breaks.....of course also inlets and weird bends in the beach. I have a few local spots planned out in my head, but tides are a huge factor in surf quality for us up here.... with any luck it'll be big enough that tides dont matter
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btw, speaking of Rc's. Since those twin ugly condos went up and the dredge and fill project, it ain't breaking like it use to. Just another break now.
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We do Cole. This whole area set up. RCs will have 1000s of people there for old times sake.
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would putting in for a day/days off jinx it? asking for a friend

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is your friend's name Larry? did they go to school with your Uncle? I'd say .....yep
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would putting in for a day/days off jinx it? asking for a friend


Dangit! I just did this for Wednesday and Friday!!

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Originally posted by: long_flaco1
would putting in for a day/days off jinx it? asking for a friend
Dangit! I just did this for Wednesday and Friday!!
good, 'cause thursday is the day With the recent improvement in Larry's structure on satellite imagery, the hurricane may be starting another rapid intensification (RI) cycle, as suggested by the high RI probabilities given in the DTOPS guidance. However, the earlier microwave data also suggested that there were a lot of concentric bands outside of the primary eyewall, and it is not out of the question that another eyewall replacement cycle could begin in the next 24-36 hours. Instead of attempting to forecast these often stochastic processes, the latest NHC intensity forecast will instead show a healthy rate of deepening over the next several days, now taking Larry to 120 kt in 48 hours. Afterwards, there still remain questions as to how much the vertical wind shear will increase over Larry, with the ECMWF-SHIPS indicating higher shear that could affect Larry's inner-core structure, while the GFS-SHIPS showing much lower shear. Warmer sea-surface temperatures also await the hurricane in the 60-96 hour period. Due to these competing factors, the intensity forecast during this period will only show very gradual weakening. The latest NHC intensity forecast remains on the high end of the guidance, but still remains lower than the higher HAFS-B and COAMPS-TC models. It should be noted that the majority of the guidance also shows Larry becoming a very large hurricane, with a significant expansion of the 34-, 50-, and 64-kt wind radii also forecast. Significant ocean swells generated by the increasingly large wind field of Larry are expected to reach the Lesser Antilles on Sunday, increasing the risk of life-threatening rip currents and high surf conditions on those islands early next week. Large swells are likely to spread to areas surrounding the western Atlantic later in the week as well.
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Actually liking the early high tide for this size and period
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Hurricane Bill 2009 & Hurricane Katia 2011 are similar in strength and path. There are probably more but those two I've surfed both and are relatively recent on the timeline. Happy hunting everyone.
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Originally posted by: mp2115 Hurricane Bill 2009 ... similar in strength and path.
Ding Ding.... the track I posted above was from Bill.... and instead of Covid, that summer we had H1N1
36H 06/0000Z 20.3N 51.5W 125 KT 145 MPH


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From Surfline:

"Hurricane Bill (August 15th-26th, 2009)
August 2009 was a fantastic time to be an East Coast surfer. Peaking as a large, category 4 hurricane, Bill basically took an ideal track for East Coast swell production. Florida and New England were notable standouts, but the entire coast saw days of swell from Bill.

Similarities?

Spawned from tropical wave off Africa and developed near Cape Verde Islands
Became a long-lived, major hurricane
Favorable recurving track over the Atlantic
Differences?

Bill tracked further west between Bermuda and the East Coast; Larry forecast to remain east of Bermuda
Bill became a stronger and larger storm than Larry (so far)
Bill peaked with hurricane-force winds extending up to 115 miles from the center, Larry's currently slightly weaker with hurricane-force winds only extending 70 miles from the center
Hurricane Teddy (September 12th-24th, 2020)
During the hyperactive 2020 season, Hurricane Teddy stood out as the main event for East Coast surf. Once it tracked past Bermuda, Teddy evolved differently than most recurving tropical systems. Large high pressure to the north and northeast of the system effectively expanded Teddy's wind field, and also made it take a left turn to the northwest, two factors that greatly enhanced Teddy's swell production.

Swell Story: Teddy: The Most Popular Storm in Two Alphabets

Similarities?

Spawned from tropical waves off Africa and developed near Cabo Verde Islands
Long-life, major hurricanes
Tracked on the east side of Bermuda
Differences?

Teddy was massive, eventually becoming the fourth largest Atlantic hurricane on record
Teddy underwent extratropical transition upon passing Bermuda, allowing the wind field to grow as it took a favorable northwest track ahead of a Nova Scotia landfall. Larry will likely race off to the northeast with no high-pressure support, therefore no major reinforcing E/NE pulse, like Teddy helped provide.
So far, Teddy at 120 knots was stronger than Larry
The Takeaways: At first glance, Hurricane Larry looks similar to Bill and Teddy, but the devil is in the details. Bill was a stronger system with a closer track to the East Coast, resulting in more swell. Teddy was also a stronger and much larger system that underwent a favorable, swell-producing evolution in the Northwest Atlantic. While Larry ain't too shabby, it's no Teddy and it's no Bill."



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I hope this doesnt F- us up here in NE FL..... I drove enough last weekend chasing swell: almost guarantees SW winds for you guys
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TODAY
West winds 5 knots becoming northwest late in the
morning, then becoming southeast in the afternoon. Seas 1 to
2 feet with a dominant period 15 seconds.

WEDNESDAY
Southwest winds 5 knots becoming southeast in the
afternoon. Seas 3 to 4 feet with a dominant period 14 seconds.


THURSDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 4 to 6 feet.

FRIDAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots becoming northeast in the
afternoon. Seas 6 to 8 feet.

SATURDAY
Southwest winds 5 knots becoming east in the
afternoon. Seas 3 to 5 feet.

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I went to the Kiddie Pool. Block long close outs. Few and far between corner slides. Nice day, good water. About 7a to 1030a.

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Hurricane Georges 1998 was a cat 4 at a close lat/lon to Bill 2009. Georges was insane at pierless. Me, Larry Mayo, Kevin Cross and a select few caught the point break like 300 yard rights rolling up the beach.

Fast forward to 2009, I saw a very similar lat/lon in Bill. Bill was 100 miles north of where Georges was at with 140mph winds.

The difference was Bill went NNW where Georges hit tge "shutoff valve" heading west.

But it was that point where I thought Pierless would deliver. August 21, closed out at Pierless.

Checked Harbor Heights. Nada. Went to Ponce Inlet. Score!!!

So where will Larry drliver?
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The intensity forecast with Larry is somewhat tricky. Larry's wind
field continues to grow, following the multiple ERCs that have
occurred over the past few days. At the same time, Larry's forward
motion has gradually been slowing down, with the latest estimate
down to 10 kts. The combination of Larry's widening wind field with
its slower forward motion opens the storm up to possible upwelling
of cooler ocean waters near its inner-core. In fact, a drifting buoy
that Larry moved over in the past 24 hours showed a significant drop
in sea-surface temperatures from 27.5 C to less than 26 C. These
in-situ measurements are helpful, because they are lower than the
SHIPS-derived sea-surface temperature values and more consistent
with the upwelling recently forecast by the HWRF model. Adding to
the forecast complexity is the ongoing ERC which could be ending
over the next 6-12 hours. The latest NHC intensity forecast is
similar to the previous one for the first 24 hours, showing little
change in intensity after ERC completion. Thereafter, while
dynamical conditions near Larry are expected to become more
favorable (lower vertical wind shear), the anticipated upwelling
from Larry's large wind field as the storm moves slowly
northwestward is forecast to result in gradual decay. The latest NHC
intensity forecast is a bit lower than the previous one after
48 hours, following the latest HCCA consensus aid closely. However,
Larry's wind field is also forecast to expand over this time period,
making the cyclone a prolific swell and surf producer.


Key Messages:

1. Large swells generated by Larry are already affecting the Lesser
Antilles and will spread to portions of the Greater Antilles, the
Bahamas, and Bermuda on Monday and Tuesday. Significant swells
should reach the east coast of the United States and Atlantic Canada
by midweek.
These swells will likely cause life-threatening surf
and rip current conditions, and beachgoers and other interests along
these coasts are urged to follow the advice of lifeguards and local
officials this week.

2. Larry is forecast to approach Bermuda during the next several
days as a large and powerful hurricane, bringing a risk of strong
winds, heavy rainfall, and coastal flooding to the island by the
middle of this week. While it is too soon to determine the
magnitude of these hazards and potential impacts on Bermuda,
interests there should closely monitor the latest forecast updates
during the next several days.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 06/0300Z 21.0N 51.4W 110 KT 125 MPH
12H 06/1200Z 22.0N 52.6W 110 KT 125 MPH
24H 07/0000Z 23.2N 54.1W 110 KT 125 MPH
36H 07/1200Z 24.6N 55.4W 105 KT 120 MPH
48H 08/0000Z 26.0N 56.7W 100 KT 115 MPH
60H 08/1200Z 27.6N 58.2W 95 KT 110 MPH
72H 09/0000Z 29.4N 59.9W 90 KT 105 MPH
96H 10/0000Z 34.4N 61.6W 85 KT 100 MPH
120H 11/0000Z 42.9N 55.8W 80 KT 90 MPH
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dp vizzie at high tide this morning it was flatter than yesterday. Yes it's only Monday, but I'm pessimistically optimistic.
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Hurricane Georges 1998 was a cat 4 at a close lat/lon to Bill 2009. Georges was insane at pierless. Me, Larry Mayo, Kevin Cross and a select few caught the point break like 300 yard rights rolling up the beach.

Fast forward to 2009, I saw a very similar lat/lon in Bill. Bill was 100 miles north of where Georges was at with 140mph winds.

The difference was Bill went NNW where Georges hit the "shutoff valve" heading west.

But it was that point where I thought Pierless would deliver. August 21, closed out at Pierless.

Checked Harbor Heights. Nada. Went to Ponce Inlet. Score!!!

So where will Larry deliver?

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I dunno, but I'm still very thankful I went to elementary, RJHS and CBHS with ya. Say hey to the fam. Wooo Hooo X10 , rc

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Well, unfortunately Larry decided to quit taking HGH..... still fun surf coming, but looks like the size / intensity factor will be bumped down a notch or two
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Originally posted by: rc Hurricane Georges 1998 was a cat 4 at a close lat/lon to Bill 2009. Georges was insane at pierless. Me, Larry Mayo, Kevin Cross and a select few caught the point break like 300 yard rights rolling up the beach. Fast forward to 2009, I saw a very similar lat/lon in Bill. Bill was 100 miles north of where Georges was at with 140mph winds. The difference was Bill went NNW where Georges hit the "shutoff valve" heading west. But it was that point where I thought Pierless would deliver. August 21, closed out at Pierless. Checked Harbor Heights. Nada. Went to Ponce Inlet. Score!!! So where will Larry deliver?
Pretty sure Ponce was the best spot in FL for that one for sure.... St. Aug was a distant runner up. Trying to surf through that while recovering from H1N1 was tough
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Thanks saw. Glass is half full... of PBR.
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Ole' Larry is definitely an unusual one for sure....
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fyi, South Bermuda buoy 5 feet 15 seconds from the ESE this Monday morning.
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Quick sprint north after Thurs. Newfoundland by Sat.

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4 foot 15 seconds currently on East Bahama buoy 41046
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First ping on ne Bahama buoy @16 secs

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4 foot 15 seconds currently on East Bahama buoy 41046
cfd

Any idea how long it takes to get here ( Cocoa Beach)?

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It's been going up all day on the east Bahamas buoy . 15 sec swell travels 22.5 mph , I forgot how far the NE Bahamas buoy is from us. Good to see an incoming swell .
Did the math. 540 miles divided by 22.5 = 24 hours

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Its usually within 24 hours. I'd expect to see forerunners tomorrow morning and pick thru the day. Virtual buoys show it pretty good arriving. High tide in morning. low in afternoon. Hopefully we get favorable winds the rest of the week and forecast is looking really pretty. Everyone have fun!
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Hopefully we get some fun ones to warm up with tomorrow

The sessions so far this season have not been anything meaningful and I am not fit for a true tropical swell
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Forerunners coming from the south usually break better for us in CB area. Once the real swell hits from the East it's going to really b about location and not even enjoyable a lot of places ..... just my 40 years 2 cents.
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Yeah, when the outside feels like it's a mile away from shore. That's when I just sit there and bust out a cup of coffee and the camera

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Can't stop my leg......can't stop my leg...........................
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41049 - SOUTH BERMUDA

9 feet 16 seconds

Both East Bahama buoys showing it around 4-5 feet and 15 seconds. I'd imagine if we could see the 120 mile buoy it would show forerunners.

20 miler and 1 miler showing 10-11 seconds, so maybe that is larry or something else, or the buoys picking up a disturbance coming. Should fill in today and that marine forecast showing SW winds. How we get so lucky? (knock on wood). Hope I didn't curse it.
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Was there just a 16 sec ping on the 20? ( 9/7: 820am)

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Yes, 1 foot 16 seconds. Forerunner!
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20 mile buoy typically showed 16 seconds for a couple hours and now disappeared. Forerunners!
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wind is now onshore. Tuesday looking like a bust, unless it fills in this evening. 20 mile back to 1.3 feet 16 seconds. checked a few cams, didn't see anything and whatever is there now is choppy.

But, cams could miss long period swell if don't watch long enough. Keep checking! Its coming!
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I didnt even consider surfing today as a real option.... work late free up more time this week
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I am trying my hardest to think of anything that could break up the closeout.

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Anybody else whistling certain Carly Simon tune today?
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Originally posted by: IamSAW2

Anybody else whistling certain Carly Simon tune today?


Lol yep! Anticipation

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Surfline's changing fast.

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Originally posted by: ww Surfline's changing fast.
Like how
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Just got out from an incoming tide session, I think now is the time to go. Definitely closing out, but the faces stay open enough to give you some room. More water is definitely helping
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy I am trying my hardest to think of anything that could break up the closeout.
I know at least three locations but so does everyone else
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Originally posted by: mp2115
Originally posted by: johnnyboy I am trying my hardest to think of anything that could break up the closeout.
I know at least three locations but so does everyone else
I need a wave runner. That would solve the equation
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The closeouts are wider than the Surfline camera window
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It's a solid 6-7 foot 15sec swell on most of the incoming buoys . now it's all about the tide and wind . Pick your spots and bars that can take a 15 sec swell . Know where the edges are
time to use I've got a positive covid test option now , before your buddy does
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Originally posted by: Kimo63
time to use I've got a positive covid test option now , before your buddy does


Nah, you just say your buddy must of gave it to you
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Just got off the beach fishing - long long long lines, some sets near chest high. More consistency to the sets while I was there. Glassy with no wind.

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I saw a 2 foot set with white water from bicentennial park to pet den. Closeout city south of the cape on these long period swells from the SE. Go to Ponce inlet. Me? I'll wait for a swell out of the north.
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Not allowed to drive until at least Sept 24.
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Thanks seaspray, dead high tide right now. Offshore winds until noon'ish. I'm checking it soon.
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very long closeouts, a few corners, clean enough, hope the wind holds for lower tide...

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Fun enough if you were patient for the right waves. Overall it was slow which is expected with the long period. Lot of bait in the water and spinners everywhere. Got tagged by a nasty jelly on my ankle that most definitively was not a simple moon jelly.
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Getting bigger this afternoon. Surfed patrick area. of course, mostly close outs, long wait for big sets. Typical forerunners with bad angle and long period swell.

Fun enough though. saw some bikinis, caught a couple waves. Look at wind forecast tomorrow and swell size increase (in theory). Yeah...glad I got a paddle in to warm up.

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Fun morning up here.... alot of peeps will say it sucked because they surfed their usual HT spots.... looked at first light, then doubled in size when I walked over the dune 30 min later with my fish and no leash. Had to be selective but they were out there..... hopefully this is just the beginning

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Last night there were 17 sec readings on the buoys. Don't think I've ever seen it that high on a clean groundswell. I'm gonna make a guess that the back side of this swell is gonna be fun. No sneaker sets
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Originally posted by: Plan B Fun morning up here.... alot of peeps will say it sucked because they surfed their usual HT spots.... . Had to be selective but they were out there..... hopefully this is just the beginning
Same report, B. good times not far from ya. Today . then as usual the winds got on it. when it's this big, tide really doesn't seem to matter..... Tomorrow looking good too, however, who invited Mindy to this party? Moderate rain filtering thru your way, now....
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Got in a brief high tide session up in CB, there were a few shoulders for a few secs, nice n glassy for sure at least and easy paddle out. Time to break out the inflatable point break....
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I got some

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OK, that's one.....
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I have heard reports that the north side of a inlet, of a north flowing river, near the northern boundary of a NE Fla county was VERY good this am ...... and VERY crowded.

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LB Larry, thats where I surfed good ol Bill 12 yrs ago
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Call in a PTO day... then come home from surfing last night to see a tropical storm heading this way with howling offshores and storms forecast
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Originally posted by: Plan B Call in a PTO day... then come home from surfing last night to see a tropical storm heading this way with howling offshores and storms forecast
like i said - who tf invited MINDY to the party She really wanted to meet Larry...?
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No bump up on the 20, yet I hope. Was thinking hi tide crumblers vs block long close outs might yeild a few more than yesterday.

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The last spectral density reading from 41009 was at 850Z and the spectral density at the 20 was almost 7 m^2/Hz. That's a fair amount of energy. Wind isn't ideal today. Local pressure gradient should collapse again tomorrow though.

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Surfed Cocoa Beach for 6 hours. High tide which is normally good here was awful. 5-6 foot sets breaking way too close to shore and every ride was 5 seconds or less except for one 15 second ride. 3 hours after high tide however some 6-7 foot sets finally started breaking outside. I got stuck in a riptide at one point which worked out because the biggest set of day came in at the perfect time. I couldn't catch the 1st wave but the 2nd one was an 7 or 8 foot bomb that I rode about 400 yards south. The sets were inconsistent but when they did show up it was a blast.

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Originally posted by: LaJune Surfed Cocoa Beach for 6 hours. High tide which is normally good here was awful. 5-6 foot sets breaking way too close to shore and every ride was 5 seconds or less except for one 15 second ride. 3 hours after high tide however some 6-7 foot sets finally started breaking outside. I got stuck in a riptide at one point which worked out because the biggest set of day came in at the perfect time. I couldn't catch the 1st wave but the 2nd one was an 7 or 8 foot bomb that I rode about 400 yards south. The sets were inconsistent but when they did show up it was a blast.
"7 or 8 foot bomb that I rode about 400 yards south". That is a career wave of the decade.
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Super fun surf this morning.
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Still long walls were i was..3hrs one good wave Fingers crossed the angle switches just a hair... PLEASE... Waiting to hear what Cole has to say later on.... Wonder what the wind will do...alot of S. on it this morning then rain...and then lighting
 09/10/2021 11:23 AM
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johnnyboy

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That was perfect. Offshore. 6-8. Wow.

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North of Cape yesterday



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equipeola

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy That was perfect. Offshore. 6-8. Wow.
yeEEwW! ya I'm beat---- 'til manana tho eh

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Never got as big as I hoped, but some really fun surf..... 6 hours a day with sessions before and after work (didnt work too hard ) for 3 days. Thursday night was the best surf session I've had in a year.... Friday had the potential to be better,but winds went from sheet glass to blasting onshore at 3pm. Pretty fun run and I was hurting yesterday....leading up to opening football sunday Looking forward to more (and no landfall stress, please)

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This is still not registering in the swell models. But it looks very promising.

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