I got Off of the Beaten Path yesterday and perused a few Conservative Fantasies WEB sites.

I'm stunned by all the absolute, plain-and-simple, anti Polio vaccination Idiots!

To be plain about it, , , , , it has now gotten to the point that the MAGA folks are very sure that ALL vaccinations are a Liberal World Government plot.

Well, Okay. It is your God Given Right to not be vaccinated, along with the Holy fact that it is also your right to catch "it" and then die a miserable death.

Oh and, , , , , , please don't worry about the "trackers" in the vaccines, , , , you already got your tracker from your Pabst Blue Ribbon.

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Edited: 08/14/2022 at 03:56 AM by dingpatch

Be stunned, bros

Anyone out there know/met people affected by polio??

You have to have grey hair (or none) to answer 'yes', but believe me you don't want you or your family getting that - IF you live, the are severely 'affected' for th rest of your life.

Whatever happened to the mandatory 'DPT' vaccines for everyone?

This is (yet another) true 'public health' issue, or are we still in the age of 'free to be irresponsible at the expense of others (don't answer that)

That shit's gotta change

Stupid is as stupid does

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I am old enough to have had teachers, family friends, and older workmates who had polio... and they lived but the deformity and handicaps were very serious. I remember my first grade teacher looked like Doris Day but had polio and one leg was about the size of her wrist. She was able to get around with a pronounced limp.
She was lucky.



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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

Vaccines aren't like one thing. They're like anything else, there are good ones and bad ones. I haven't heard anything negative about the polio vaccine but I would definitely do my research before giving any kids the HPV vaccine or taking the shingles vaccine. I've heard negative things about both of those.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

The VA gave me the HPV vaccine.

And, I just got my last shingles vaccination a week ago.

And, , , , , , please Do Not hesitate to get the shingles shot. Last month while I was at the VA in Nashville I met an old Vet who had had shingles, , , , , , he said that he would rather have been shot by the NVA again. "That AK round Did Not hurt near as much as that fucking shingles shit".

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He's heard things. I heard lots of bad things to from the likes of Joe Mercola and company. The question is whether or not I properly research the claims and make a decision based on accurate risk-benefit analysis. Rates matter more than anecdotes.

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IMO everyone should do a rational risk assessment of taking/not taking any vaccine, or other medical treatment for that matter, based on their own particular case IN consultation with their doctor, but it def looks like nowadays many are basing these decisions based on irrational BS propaganda on political based websites, 'news' organizations, blogs etc etc, and not true science (aka 'statistics')..

For most all vaccines to even make it to the public, the chance of getting any serious side effects are practically zero, compared to getting, or spreading, the disease/virus etc, or they wouldn't make it to market.

Truly a sad state of affairs when a significant percent of the population make these decisions believe based on fear mongering, spread for the sole purpose of bilking or selling ads, by the the likes of alex jones et al, more than the advice of their doctors and the medical community..

is the bot asleep?

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Edited: 08/15/2022 at 04:03 AM by surfsail

I guess you are just going to gloss over the fact that I said "I would do my research..." so that you can try to make some grandiose statement that really doesn't say anything. BRAVO!!! I don't give a shit if you vaccinate yourself against feline AIDS. Take' 'em all for all I care.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Its his MO......identity politics, generalization, and prejudice. The very first post on this topic reeks of that as well. Just makes things so much easier to approach things with such a broad swath then to have actual debates with the individual themselves. Identity politics is a very useful tool to villainize the "opposition"

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

It's both sides. See one Robert Kennedy, Jr. Just recently read up on the polio vaccine. The most popular one doesn't stop one from getting the disease. The vaccinated just get a mild case - most of the time. The vaccination itself can also lead to a full blown, bad case in a small set of people. Not entirely clear cut as to whether you get the vaccine in a low polio case load scenario.

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And Tpap reference RFK Jr. thus making my point about the likes of Joe Mercola and company. RFJ Jr. is part of that "and company".

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Any of you research the survival rate of polio and apply the same logic you have about covid?

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Although most cases of polio are mild, the 1% of cases resulting in flaccid paralysis has made polio a feared disease for hundreds of years. Of people with paralytic polio, about 2% - 5% of children die and up to 15% - 30% of adults die.

COVID has a death rate of less than 2%, and even that population makeup has common factors such as age, and health.

A polio vaccine will prevent you from catching and spreading the virus, except for rare cases where the vaccinated person in immunocompromised.

A COVID "vaccine" will not prevent you from catching or spreading the virus. No matter what.

We're not exactly talking apples to apples, now are we Scom?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

What is 0.01 X 0.30? So death rate in the 0.01-0.02 range? What's 0.01 X 0.30 again?

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Edited: 08/15/2022 at 12:56 PM by scombrid

What?

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Here, I'll say it louder. POLIO VACCINE WORKS, COVID "VACCINE" DOESN"T......

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Of course the Covid vaccine worked, it was designed to reduce virulence and it does that quite well.



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I was right.

THE COVID VACCINE WORKS JUST FINE

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Does it though? I am not so sure after reading Tpapablo and Chopola links. And with the case fatality rate being 0.0015-0.003 to COVID's 0.01-0.02 in adults I think the whole polio thing must have been one of the original big pharma scamdemics.

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The anti vax fringe has been shifted to the mainstream by the Republican party. White power, gun nuts, anti vax, all elections are rigged, drill everywhere, anti immigration, pro big oil, anti renewable, go back to the gold standard fucking weirdos.

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I was right.

Republicans aren't anti-vaccine. We are smart, can evaluate the risk ourselves, and are not prone to cowardly panic that leads us to do whatever some idiot bureaucrat tells us to do. I got the shingles vaccine while all the covid BS was going on. Obviously I am not anti-vaccine. Instead, I am pro-thinking.

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Just reminding everybody the Polio was and is a NWO fraud too.

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Seems like scom and the rest are just fine with the paralysis of people (including many children) thatnks to the "polio scam."

The Messed Up History of Polio

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All of the 2+ million illegals are up to date on all vaccines, right?

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Both of you care that others get vaccinated. They are different from your tribe and that bothers you.



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I was right.

You old dog! Glad to hear you are still out there getting it in on the reg.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

It sounds like it isn't just here. Sounds like people around the world aren't seeing much benefit in accepting the gene therapy into your life.

Moderna CEO:


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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

What things, and where?
I watched my Dad go thru bad shingles,
Got the vaccine.

I don't think there is any vaccine out there whose risk isn't significantly lower than that of the disease. They don't release them without testing, review.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

They did with Covid.

Liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Jesus dude, really? lol

http://www.williamengdahl.com/

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I was right.

Kooky beyond all reason.

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Polio should have been eradicated, yet because of a few selfish people who refuse vaccination, it remains in circulation.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

kinda like....effKay?

The Covid 'jab' is in fact NOT a vaccine.

Far far from it.

"Social media is calling bluff on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for modifying its definition of the words "vaccine" and "vaccination" on its website.
Before the change, the definition for "vaccination" read, "the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease."
Now, the word "immunity" has been switched to "protection."
The term "vaccine" also got a makeover.
The CDC's definition changed from "a product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease" to the current "a preparation that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against diseases."


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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 08/15/2022 at 10:16 AM by Fish Killer

Oh shit social media is calling CDC's "bluff".

Fats can you comprehend how stupid that sounds?

As presumed cases of polio literally exploded across the USA after 1945 the theory was advanced, with no proof, that the crippling polio disease was transmitted, not by toxic pesticide chemicals like DDT, but by mosquitoes or flies to humans, most especially young children or infants. The message was that DDT can safely protect your family from the crippling polio. Officially listed polio cases went from some 25,000 in 1943 before US civilian use of DDT, to over 280,000 cases in 1952 at the peak, more than a tenfold increase. http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO12July2022.php

Americans once sprayed a toxic pesticide to combat polio - but they changed course as knowledge evolved

Many Americans have run out of patience with mitigation methods for minimizing the spread of the coronavirus. But the forgotten story of how Americans once resorted to spraying a now-banned pesticide, DDT, to combat polio is a reminder of how desperation can cloud judgment - and how only trial, error, patience and time can produce true epidemic control.


- no Chopola, I didnt read yours, was blocked at work, But it looked like trash on my phone, so I looked around just a little and foiund this.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 08/15/2022 at 12:55 PM by WG

Of course DDT was an effective pesticide.

That's not why we don't use it anymore.
That has nothing to do with vaccinations.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Polio is caused by 1 of 3 types of the poliovirus. It often spreads due to contact with infected feces. This often happens from poor handwashing. It can also happen from eating or drinking contaminated food or water.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

NO IT DOESN'T!

LIAR!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Fraud boy thinks he can identify a lie?

He believes the aptly named "big lie".

The Covid 'jab' is in fact NOT a vaccine.

Far far from it.

"Social media is calling bluff on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for modifying its definition of the words "vaccine" and "vaccination" on its website.
Before the change, the definition for "vaccination" read, "the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease."
Now, the word "immunity" has been switched to "protection."
The term "vaccine" also got a makeover.
The CDC's definition changed from "a product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease" to the current "a preparation that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against diseases."


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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.