Used to be a thing, but the rise of right wing extremism threatens to tighten the cuffs on women, minorities, and working people.

"Under the law of nature, all men are born free; every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the Author of nature, because necessary for his own sustenance."

Thomas Jefferson,
Legal Argument,
1770. FE 1:376

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 02/01/2023 at 06:16 AM by RustyTruck

You talking about how California is trying to build an economic Berlin Wall to keep people from leaving by making them pay California taxes even if they leave?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

I'm talking about a natural law envisioned by the "founders" (flawed as they were) that people have the right to move about on the earth as they please and maintain autonomy over their own bodies.

Not part of the right wing vision of "freedom", which to them means the freedom to steal, avoid accountability, and exploit others.





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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 02/01/2023 at 06:52 AM by RustyTruck

I agree. What California is trying to do is messed up. Make your state better, so people aren't trying to flee your dumbass taxes.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

People leave California because they want to collect California wages and live in Kissimmee.

I paid GA taxes when I worked there but lived in FL. Is that what you're on about?



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

That sure stopped them in their track.

Kinda hard to argue with the facts, I guess.



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I was right.

No right wing conservative ever told me that I had to get vaccinated or lose my job. Indeed, the stood up for everyone's right to say no. BTW, communist countries aren't known for granting a lot of freedoms. Every hear of the Berlin wall? You, as a communist, are not one to talk.

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Right wing conservatives love to place restrictions on their workers, being anti-vax was just a useful political trope. Cost a lot of lives, but I guess those who fell for it deserve their fate.

Funny, one of the first international communists I ever met (East German) told me she was very worried about the re-unification with the west because East Germans would lose their rights. That caught me off guard, because I had received the same anticommunist indoctrination that you likely did. I probed a bit and discovered that for better or worst, East Germans had a right to work, housing, healthcare, and food.

But at the end of the day, my collectivist philosophy is grounded in anarchism.

No matter, trying to force right wing indoctrination on the college youth will have the reverse effect.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 02/01/2023 at 09:07 AM by RustyTruck

Prog idea of liberty gets shot down. Progs are trying to take away our liberties, not right wingers. When, after all, is the last time ar right winger tried to ban your gun?

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Didn't the right wing in FL pass a law that your doctor wasn't allowed to ask a patient about firearms in the home?

As pointed out, you guys LOVE big government control as long it's doing your bidding.

How about doctor's and patient's freedom to discuss termination of pregnancy? Is that still allowed according to the right wing notion of freedom?

You guys should brush up on your Orwell. The doublespeak is deafening.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Remember how back in the Soviet Union days, people from the west weren't trying to get into the East? It was the other way around. People wanted to be in the West for freedom. Same here. Are you claiming people are leaving shithole prog states in droves to come to well managed states so they'd have less freedom. (I do realize that y'all are dumb enough to make that claim, but I am making a point to the normal people on this forum.)

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Trump got vaccinated and just called out Desantis for leaving the state open during a pandemic that killed tens of thousands within the state. You might have the freedom to refuse scientifically based healthcare during a pandemic that killed over a million people, but your choice and freedom to make it was that of a guy living in world where you come into contact with others every day and could potentially expose and in some cases kill them. It was about their freedom to be proetected weighed against your freedom to be an ass.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

It was about their freedom to be protected weighed against your freedom to be an ass.


Including wearing a simple mask on their face.

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I was right.

Deep breaths buddy. Deep breaths.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

HAHAHAHAHA A self proclaimed communist riding the high horse of "personal liberty"....you can't make this shit up.

Mind you, this is the same guy who supported forced vaccinations...regardless of your "personal liberty"

Rusty, you are one confused mofo. Libtardism has officially rotted your brain.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

I fought communism because it lied to it's people, it became about personality, greed, control, totalitarianism, not equality.
Same reason we must fight Trumpism.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

How can you sit here and say you fought communism....yet support the very mechanisms that brought it to light?



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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Care to explain that gem?
cuz I am baffled.

You think democracy leads to communism?

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 02/01/2023 at 03:21 PM by WG

WG, with all due respect, you have proven yourself not wanting to understand. I posted a link to an audio book the brilliantly describes what I am talking about.....but you proven in that other thread.....you are too scared to even bother to understand the very thing you are supporting, as in collectivism, socialism, distain for Capitalism, and racial discord. All part of what lead to the rise of the Nazis/ WW2. Listen to the book and the opening your fcking mind....for once

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Well, the American Jesus of today has lowered the ethical standards quite a bit.

He builds walls, prisons, and impossible legal standards for immigrants to protect the entitlements of those fortunate enough to be chosen for birth in his blessed lands

So rusty supports government intervertion by having a Doctor ask if you have a firearm in your house--who really wants that info?

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

If you want to see loss of freedom, vote me in as governor. All of you progs will be shackles, at least until the firing squads get up and running.

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Probably to prevent suicide.



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I was right.

Doctors that want to save the lives of children.
The leading cause of death for children in the USA?
Keeping firearms in your house greatly increases the risk.

What do you think?
They're keeping a database for the deep state so Obama can tek yer guns?

I'm not sure, but do ya really think the doc shouldn't have a right to even ask?

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

I think he actually does.

He seems to have a quite confused perception of what democracy is and what threatens it.

but good luck convincing him of anything unless you spice it up with ghost stories of demons and child chemical castration



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Hey moron....democracy does lead to tyranny which is why we're a Republic.

You guys most be of the generation that had civics and history replaced with transgender studies in school.

Being ignorantly arrogant will lead to a life of nothing more than trolling forums all day and obsessing over Trump.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

yea, I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything,
just explaining myself, and maybe trying to get them to do likewise.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

in NSR. bruh you need to start over

You seem to have anger issues

I wrote off your post commanding everyone to watch some youtube video, when I saw you misspelled NIETZSCHE in the title and body.

I figured if you don't care enough to spell the guy's name correctly: A) How much could you possibly know about it and B) Why should I give a fuck?

The audio book you keep crying about is some dude's opinions on Nietzsche... whose writings are about as pliable as those of Nostradamus.


Which begs the question- Why do you need somebody else on a Youtube video to explain "what you are talking about"

You aren't able to explain yourself in your own words?

It would seem:

A) You can't use your words

and B) You are extremely quick to jump to the conclusion that everyone else is "close minded", "scared", "won't open their fcking mind" and most hilariously "most be of the generation that had civics and history replaced with transgender studies in school"

because they don't want to immediately stop everything they are doing in the middle of their day and spend 30+ minutes listening to a random youtube video all because you jumped on some internet forum and angrily demanded it.

LOL

But please, keep calling everyone "morons" and "ignorant" - that will accomplish your goals.. whatever the hell they are

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Edited: 02/02/2023 at 06:18 AM by fishkller

That's a whole lot of bloviating for so early in the morning. Gearing up for another fine day of trolling and obsessing, huh?

And by the way, you mistake anger for contempt.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Edited: 02/02/2023 at 03:29 AM by OBX

Can you point to where civics and history has been replaced my Trans studies?



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I was right.

Only in the diseased right wing brain.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Whatever that "thing" is that you've got going on, I'd recommend a personal therapist.

or at the very least some Lexapro.

You don't want to end up like Qfap- old, washed up and consumed with inner rage into the grave

(did I mention the Appalachian good looks?)


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Edited: 02/02/2023 at 06:47 AM by fishkller

I keep telling my normal colleagues on this forum that you are fighting a losing battle if getting these nitwits to open up their minds is your goal. Ain't going to happen. They don't have the mental capacity for that. They can't even think. They are told to say something, and they do. That is the extent of their reasoning process.

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I :heart; Q

Grrrrrrrrrrrr

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I keep telling my normal colleagues

Like dogs give a shit either way.

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I was right.

Spot on!

Especially the two butt-buddy morons Jim and fakefishkller.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Zing!

"normal colleagues"

You mean the Breitbart staff pictures that you hold conversations with?


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I love that Tpap has to consider bottom dweller Lomtard a peer now ha

2 fish in a flop

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