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Topic Title: Here Comes The Sand
Topic Summary: Dump Trucks Full Of your Tax Dollars
Created On: 01/06/2021 08:57 AM
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 01/06/2021 08:57 AM
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JOESTRUMMER

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Airbase closed as the Federal Government once again pisses into the wind . Phase Two ,up next is (GASP !) Cocoa Beach (beginning at 2nd street North ) and going all the way South to the Northern limit of the airbase . Scheduled to start March 1st . Lord save us ! Thanks a lot , Jack !

Edited: 01/06/2021 at 11:59 AM by JOESTRUMMER
 01/06/2021 09:43 AM
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Plan B

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Originally posted by: JOESTRUMMER. Scheduled to start March 1st . Lord save us ! Thanks a lot , Jack !
I predict raging NE'er March 2nd
 01/06/2021 10:31 AM
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MyNameIsRobertPaulson

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divide and conquer. dumb conservatives and even dumber liberals at odds with each other about he said she said shit, meanwhile Fed takes your tax dollars and sets them on fire in order to prop up real estate values.
 01/06/2021 10:36 AM
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SurferMic

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what's the plan for Mel Beach and South, have they already done it? Are they planning to go past Aquarina? The sand at the old SBI bar/restaurant is almost gone.

Edited: 01/06/2021 at 10:39 AM by SurferMic
 01/06/2021 10:56 AM
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RiddleMe

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Sand here is already gone from last year. It all currently sits on the reefs, screwing up the ecosystem and our breaks.
 01/06/2021 11:24 AM
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StirfryMcflurry

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Originally posted by: RiddleMe Sand here is already gone from last year. It all currently sits on the reefs, screwing up the ecosystem and our breaks.
Ouch!

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 01/06/2021 11:49 AM
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seaspray

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Was surfing in NE FL for the holidays and the bottoms were not any better up there. High Tide was preferred
 01/06/2021 01:38 PM
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Cole

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At least they are pulling it in from offshore and it's not the dirt they clog Satellite with.

I'm not sure I understand Cocoa Beach, considering we have dunes and active vegetation growth.

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 01/06/2021 01:49 PM
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Plan B

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Originally posted by: seaspray Was surfing in NE FL for the holidays and the bottoms were not any better up there. High Tide was preferred
HT is usually better up here unless it's a bigger / longer period swell..... always been like that
 01/06/2021 03:57 PM
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MyNameIsRobertPaulson

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Originally posted by: Cole At least they are pulling it in from offshore and it's not the dirt they clog Satellite with. I'm not sure I understand Cocoa Beach, considering we have dunes and active vegetation growth.
there is sand that needs to be dumped. we can't NOT use tax dollars. choose your reason of choice -> budget manipulation, neptisim, protectionism policies, however you want to spin it. It isn't about location (e.g. ccb) it's more about keeping the wheel spinning... sad really
 01/06/2021 04:33 PM
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Cole

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We can send Debbie some angry letters, but I don't think it will help.

The Bill.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/446

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 01/06/2021 07:31 PM
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SrfGtr

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Don't make it like this sand dump is going to spoil our great current line ups. The bars suck! Just as likely get some positive bottoms out of it . Anyone really think it could be worse ?
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Cole

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We had a two year run of great sandbars after the last go.

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 01/07/2021 10:29 AM
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wehorde

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I think they got tired of dealing with citizens on this issue and snuck in 50 year contracts a few years back for beach re-nourishment projects.
Not 100% certain, but I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere a while back.

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 01/07/2021 11:42 AM
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equipeola

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Originally posted by: SrfGtr Don't make it like this sand dump is going to spoil our great current line ups. The bars suck! Just as likely get some positive bottoms out of it . Anyone really think it could be worse ?
Me/Us-- As much as I 'hate' the lobby for and unnatural dynamic of this sand bs, Our bars have gotten better from these dumps every year for the past 5-6 yrs or so anyway. The worst thing for Our quality here is, long period and flatness for awhile.

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 01/07/2021 06:15 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: wehorde

I think they got tired of dealing with citizens on this issue and snuck in 50 year contracts a few years back for beach re-nourishment projects.

Not 100% certain, but I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere a while back.


I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't find it.



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 01/08/2021 08:54 AM
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SlimyBritches

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THEY have been trying to save the Outer Banks of NC for 30+ years. If you've ever been to Hatteras in the 80's, you'd see a vast difference. Back then, there was a several hundred yard walk to the water. THEY had to move the lighthouse to a different location. The bridge from Kill Devil Hills to Pea Island was almost a pier for a while. I surfed with a guy who inspects the pylons, and he said several were free swinging. NC hiway department's action was to close the lane on that side of the bridge.
 01/08/2021 09:26 AM
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StirfryMcflurry

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doo doo doo doo, and it's alright ...(depends on who you ask).

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 01/11/2021 10:47 AM
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sfds

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Originally posted by: equipeola
Originally posted by: SrfGtr Don't make it like this sand dump is going to spoil our great current line ups. The bars suck! Just as likely get some positive bottoms out of it . Anyone really think it could be worse ?
Me/Us-- As much as I 'hate' the lobby for and unnatural dynamic of this sand bs, Our bars have gotten better from these dumps every year for the past 5-6 yrs or so anyway. The worst thing for Our quality here is, long period and flatness for awhile.
The sandbars here, over the last 5-8 years are dogshit compared to what they historically were....these more frequent, yearly....whether the beach needs it or not...sand dumps have destroyed the entirety of Brevard county sandbars. That isnt to say there isnt a good one here or there or that ones dont briefly develop with the new sand, but cumulatively this process has caught up with our beaches and left thumpy inside sand in shin deep water with a deep trough that goes out beyond where the sandbars used to be. When is the last time you saw a knee-waist day break and peel to the beach? Drive from Cocoa to south mel beach and, by and large, this is the case. Greg had a good post about it a while back talking about the sand grain size and why this is happening. Don't let them fool you on the "oh it comes from offshore so its natural". They are sucking mud off the bottom out there and dumping it on the beach....
 01/11/2021 01:46 PM
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MyNameIsRobertPaulson

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The sandbars here, over the last 5-8 years are dogshit compared to what they historically were....these more frequent, yearly....whether the beach needs it or not...sand dumps have destroyed the entirety of Brevard county sandbars. That isnt to say there isnt a good one here or there or that ones dont briefly develop with the new sand, but cumulatively this process has caught up with our beaches and left thumpy inside sand in shin deep water with a deep trough that goes out beyond where the sandbars used to be. When is the last time you saw a knee-waist day break and peel to the beach? Drive from Cocoa to south mel beach and, by and large, this is the case. Greg had a good post about it a while back talking about the sand grain size and why this is happening. Don't let them fool you on the "oh it comes from offshore so its natural". They are sucking mud off the bottom out there and dumping it on the beach....
Well said brother. The general dismissive attitude of people really is really fascinating too as seen above. "it can't get worse." Read a history book and educate yourselves please. These things have cascading effects. On the plus side it really does help me understand how the general public thinks about things
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