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Topic Title: Roe v Wade
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Created On: 12/01/2021 08:36 AM
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SlimyBritches

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Tpapschmear is anti abortion because he was born with a clothes hanger in his head.
 12/01/2021 08:41 PM
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Cole

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The 50 year fight for women's rights will end under the bias Supreme Court.

The once great court is now a political joke.

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 12/02/2021 07:14 AM
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"Will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the Constitution and its reading are just political acts?"

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 12/02/2021 07:18 AM
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So much for the lame argument of apathy that "both parties are the same".



 12/02/2021 07:34 AM
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OBX

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The Supreme Court is meant to ensure any laws passed at either the State or Federal Level do not go against what is defined in the Constitution. That is it. The Court is not to decide on the morality of the law, or interject any personal bias into the consideration. Its when the latter happens, the Court just becomes a political act.

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 12/02/2021 07:36 AM
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OBX

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Originally posted by: Cole The 50 year fight for women's rights will end under the bias Supreme Court. The once great court is now a political joke.
So has the CDC, the FBI, the IRS, OSHA, Hollywood, the Media, etc.......yet most of you are lock step with their narrative; blind to the reality of supporting the very thing you're supposedly against....

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 12/02/2021 08:34 AM
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Greensleeves

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The court is marching toward determine the ruling of a previous Supreme Court decision is incorrect. It's been done genius. Your sacred constitution is subject to the whims of interpretation. Yes?

Jeez Qotards are dopes.

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 12/02/2021 08:54 AM
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>>Short of a massive surprise, Dobbs will likely overhaul abortion jurisprudence, scale back abortion rights and tee up a later decision in which the conservative majority will likely feel more emboldened to overturn Roe outright. Six of the justices have been selected partly because they favor limiting abortion; there is no reason to think the court's conservative supermajority will fail to deliver. Court watchers will mostly be looking out to see how bad the damage will be for the pro-choice side now, and how quickly the end for abortion rights could come.,,<<

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 12/02/2021 08:55 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: follydude

So much for the lame argument of apathy that "both parties are the same".


The parties aren't the same Folly, the economic powers behind the parties are the same.

And don't think for a minute there aren't capitol D Dems hoping Roe is overturned so they can fundraise off of it.

As as for the court, it's just another political organ of the failed American government.



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Edited: 12/02/2021 at 08:59 AM by RustyTruck
 12/02/2021 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy >>Short of a massive surprise, Dobbs will likely overhaul abortion jurisprudence, scale back abortion rights and tee up a later decision in which the conservative majority will likely feel more emboldened to overturn Roe outright. Six of the justices have been selected partly because they favor limiting abortion; there is no reason to think the court's conservative supermajority will fail to deliver. Court watchers will mostly be looking out to see how bad the damage will be for the pro-choice side now, and how quickly the end for abortion rights could come.,,<<
Even most leftist Constitutional scholars agree that Roe was a bad decision. And they are right.

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I need to start selling pink Gadsden flags.

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 12/02/2021 10:02 AM
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OBX

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: follydude So much for the lame argument of apathy that "both parties are the same".
The parties aren't the same Folly, the economic powers behind the parties are the same. And don't think for a minute there aren't capitol D Dems hoping Roe is overturned so they can fundraise off of it. As as for the court, it's just another political organ of the failed American government.
So which is it Rusty....here you're saying the American government is a failure, yet in the other thread you said "The right wing has succeeded in convincing an unfortunately large number of people that government is incapable of doing anything to improve material conditions"

So are you admitting you can't trust the government? Are you saying its because the right wing convinced you? Or are you saying you can only trust the competency of the government when dealing with YOUR health?



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 12/02/2021 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Originally posted by: follydude



So much for the lame argument of apathy that "both parties are the same".




The parties aren't the same Folly, the economic powers behind the parties are the same.



And don't think for a minute there aren't capitol D Dems hoping Roe is overturned so they can fundraise off of it.



As as for the court, it's just another political organ of the failed American government.


So which is it Rusty....here you're saying the American government is a failure, yet in the other thread you said "The right wing has succeeded in convincing an unfortunately large number of people that government is incapable of doing anything to improve material conditions"



So are you admitting you can't trust the government? Are you saying its because the right wing convinced you? Or are you saying you can only trust the competency of the government when dealing with YOUR health?


Obie, I'm LITERALLY an Anarchist. Of COURSE you can't trust the government. I know this is hard for you, but that doesn't mean the government can't do positive things that DO improve material conditions.



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 12/02/2021 12:31 PM
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3rdworldlover

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'Why is 15 weeks not enough time?' -Justice Roberts

Obviously because of complications that put the woman's life at risk are not always apparent until later in the pregnancy. How incredibly daft.

 12/02/2021 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover 'Why is 15 weeks not enough time?' -Justice Roberts Obviously because of complications that put the woman's life at risk are not always apparent until later in the pregnancy. How incredibly daft.
Yup, pretty stupid question. Has nothing to due with the real legal issues.

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 12/02/2021 12:46 PM
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Greensleeves

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Nothing to due?

Oh boy I'll bet old tspank knows the legal issues behind a woman's right to choose. Qotards's stink of old.

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 12/02/2021 02:23 PM
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johnnyboy

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The critique on Roe was that it created a judicial discovery of the right to privacy from the penumbra of rights already guaranteed by due process and equal protection. This was later cleared up in Planned Parenthood vs. Casey.

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 12/02/2021 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by: SlimyBritches

Tpapschmear is anti abortion because he was born with a clothes hanger in his head.


Now that's genuinely funny....and explains a lot.
They finally just gave him enough money to warehouse him on a dank superfund site in glamorous Mims.....let him think it was his decision
Hey piggy, drink lots of the glow in the dark groundwater, it's good for you!



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 12/02/2021 05:04 PM
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follydude

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Arbitrary government intrusion.

In the uterus.

The 4th Amendment.

Most Conservitards are only interested in the 2nd Amendment.

But, this one is important - too.


 12/03/2021 09:06 AM
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Cole

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Even most leftist Constitutional scholars agree that Roe was a bad decision.

Nope.

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