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Topic Title: Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach
Topic Summary: Red tide suspected
Created On: 09/30/2018 06:55 AM
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 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - 3rdworldlover - 09/30/2018 06:55 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 09/30/2018 09:15 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - jdbman - 10/01/2018 03:28 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 09/30/2018 01:08 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 09/30/2018 03:36 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - surfsail - 09/30/2018 08:12 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - 3rdworldlover - 09/30/2018 09:04 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/01/2018 06:19 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Greensleeves - 10/01/2018 08:11 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - tom - 10/01/2018 08:53 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - surfrc - 10/01/2018 09:11 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - tom - 10/01/2018 09:18 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - PUNCH22 - 10/01/2018 11:54 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 10/01/2018 12:10 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 10/02/2018 06:14 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Central Floridave - 10/01/2018 02:02 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 10/01/2018 03:22 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - waterlizard25 - 10/02/2018 05:31 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/02/2018 06:25 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 10/02/2018 06:40 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - PUNCH22 - 10/02/2018 07:12 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/03/2018 06:28 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - PUNCH22 - 10/03/2018 06:58 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Cole - 10/03/2018 07:53 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - PUNCH22 - 10/03/2018 11:38 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 10/03/2018 11:38 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Waverider969 - 10/03/2018 12:35 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - SurfCaster - 10/03/2018 03:04 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 10/03/2018 04:06 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/02/2018 06:59 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 10/02/2018 07:17 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - PUNCH22 - 10/02/2018 07:22 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/02/2018 07:37 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/03/2018 05:59 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - 3rdworldlover - 10/04/2018 05:26 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - johnnyboy - 10/04/2018 06:43 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - 3rdworldlover - 10/04/2018 07:10 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 10/04/2018 08:04 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - CERTON - 10/04/2018 08:09 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 10/04/2018 12:53 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - johnnyboy - 10/04/2018 10:48 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - surfysurfy - 10/16/2018 09:52 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Greensleeves - 10/04/2018 11:20 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - SurferMic - 10/04/2018 12:45 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - 3rdworldlover - 10/05/2018 10:37 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - boardheads - 10/15/2018 05:10 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Central Floridave - 10/15/2018 06:01 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Cole - 10/16/2018 05:41 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/15/2018 06:23 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/16/2018 04:06 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - palmtreeg - 10/16/2018 05:54 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - tom - 10/16/2018 06:04 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/16/2018 06:13 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/16/2018 06:36 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - hodad66 - 10/16/2018 06:52 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - equipeola - 10/16/2018 08:07 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/16/2018 08:11 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - palmtreeg - 10/16/2018 08:12 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Greensleeves - 10/16/2018 08:35 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/16/2018 09:23 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - SpinK - 10/16/2018 04:29 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - dingpatch - 10/16/2018 06:26 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - harrietdubman - 10/17/2018 05:12 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Cole - 10/17/2018 05:57 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 05:30 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 05:32 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/17/2018 06:14 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 06:31 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - hodad66 - 10/17/2018 06:40 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 06:53 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Big John - 10/17/2018 09:06 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - LaJune - 10/17/2018 09:30 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - tom - 10/17/2018 09:32 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - SurferMic - 10/17/2018 09:55 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/17/2018 11:35 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Greensleeves - 10/17/2018 07:09 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/17/2018 07:37 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - daner - 10/17/2018 09:42 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 10:32 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - 426Blue - 10/17/2018 11:34 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 11:39 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - seaspray - 10/17/2018 03:42 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/17/2018 12:00 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 03:58 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/17/2018 03:59 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Central Floridave - 10/17/2018 04:04 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - surfmcc32 - 10/17/2018 05:02 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 10/17/2018 05:09 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - rc - 10/17/2018 06:16 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - SoHiGH - 10/17/2018 10:08 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - worksuxgetsponsered - 10/18/2018 09:23 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Quadro - 10/18/2018 10:14 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 10/18/2018 10:24 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - worksuxgetsponsered - 10/18/2018 10:29 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 10/18/2018 10:33 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - SurferMic - 10/18/2018 01:55 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - scombrid - 10/18/2018 10:29 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/18/2018 04:12 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - worksuxgetsponsered - 10/18/2018 06:25 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Greensleeves - 10/19/2018 07:06 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/19/2018 07:15 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/19/2018 07:19 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/19/2018 08:31 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Greensleeves - 10/19/2018 10:15 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/19/2018 10:23 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - worksuxgetsponsered - 10/19/2018 10:40 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Plan B - 10/19/2018 11:48 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - ww - 10/19/2018 12:34 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - RiddleMe - 10/19/2018 01:15 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/19/2018 10:49 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - Greensleeves - 10/19/2018 11:09 AM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - miker - 10/19/2018 02:07 PM  
 Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach   - equipeola - 10/19/2018 07:50 PM  
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SoHiGH

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Hopefully, you talked to your neighbor (and educated him) before taking pics and calling the fuzz... Puff puff, pass

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worksuxgetsponsered

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Nobody wants to shell out the money to fix the problem with septic and antiquated municipal waste water systems. It is kind of an uphill battle to try to get any kind of meaningful movement on controlling eutrophication.


It's really expensive for parcel owners that don't fall into a Priority Focus Area. Most counties do have programs that help foot the bill for conversion, but in OC at least, 69% of the neighborhood has to commit financially before a plan can even be drawn up. The average cost to a homeowner for converting from septic to sewer is about 25K-50K. Uphill battle is definitely an understatement.

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Red tide has arrived in Indialantic/IHB.
 10/18/2018 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by: worksuxgetsponsered
Nobody wants to shell out the money to fix the problem with septic and antiquated municipal waste water systems. It is kind of an uphill battle to try to get any kind of meaningful movement on controlling eutrophication.
It's really expensive for parcel owners that don't fall into a Priority Focus Area. Most counties do have programs that help foot the bill for conversion, but in OC at least, 69% of the neighborhood has to commit financially before a plan can even be drawn up. The average cost to a homeowner for converting from septic to sewer is about 25K-50K. Uphill battle is definitely an understatement.
I think the state has a big responsibility to foot a chunk of that bill. State was permitting 1000s and 1000s of units in high density developments with no sewage treatment long after it knew or should have known that the lack or sewage treatment would lead to water quality problems in lakes and lagoons.

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There are other programs, but unless you're in a PFA, they base it on the mean income of the neighborhood. I'm still doing research on the topic, but from what I can tell, most of programs are geared towards PFA's.

By Dec. 3, I'll probably be able to report back a more thorough answer.

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 10/18/2018 10:33 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: worksuxgetsponsered There are other programs, but unless you're in a PFA, they base it on the mean income of the neighborhood. I'm still doing research on the topic, but from what I can tell, most of programs are geared towards PFA's. By Dec. 3, I'll probably be able to report back a more thorough answer.
Well, it does make sense to prioritize where to spend the money when trying to carry out the BMAPs to achieve the TMDLs. (we are all paying an extra fee on our water/sewer bill since the BMAP for IRL was adopted a couple of years ago).

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SurferMic

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Septic to sewer conversion is really expensive, the Impact fee is $$$$$$$. I do not think many residents will go for it. I guess the possible solution would be to waive all impacts fees to connect to sewer for any home immediately adjacent to the water & and as Daner stated earlier give more Homestead exemption to those who do not have sodded yards but instead have zero-scape or natural scape (whatever it is called). But how would you check and enforce it? . To answer Miker...if you need to have grass maybe this one .....BAHIAGRASS . "BAHIA is a pasture grass but has become a popular, low-maintenance lawn grass that performs well with limited water and fertilizer inputs. Bahia does not require irrigation during the installation and establishment period. It is for this reason that Bahia is widely used for erosion control on roadsides and retention ponds. Bahia forms a deep root system making it a great choice in sandy, infertile soils".

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scombrid

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The lawn thing should be the low hanging fruit on the clean up list but the cultural resistance to anything that doesn't look like astroturf year-round is insane. The guy that just put in the 0.4 acres of sod is a duck hunter. You'd think he'd be conscientious about the causes of the loss of sea grass in the lagoon. For every lawn in our neighborhood that has gone FL Natiive or FL Friendly Non-Native there are two that have been newly sodded with St. Aug. I was on the St. Lucie last week. Those people have some nerve blaming all their water quality problems on Lake O. It was all St. Augustine lawns and zero buffer between lawn and waterway or lawn and street.

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