06/20/2019 11:45 AM
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all3
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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: johnnyboy
Bolton is the captain of the ship. He only needs to burst in on trump and ask him "are you going to let them humiliate you like this? The world is watching and their wrist slaps are a mockery of the consequences they should be facing."
Do you think it would be ok to kill civilians because a drone was shot down?
And Bolton is correct. They are planning the retaliatory strike as I type.
War with Iran folks. More of our children to die.
Vote Democratic and end this lunacy.
Nope. We will see some cruise missiles headed their way, Knock around their ports, I am guessing. That will be followed by progs going full on hysterical yet again. They will talk about how Trump is going to start a nuclear war, how Trump has ruined America's reputation, and how Trump personally murdered innocent Iranian women and children and should be brought up on war crimes. The vast majority of Americans will support Trump's actions, however, and progs will soon move to the next ginned-up outrage. Trump will move closer to re-election.
Do you think it's ok to kill civilians because our drone got shot down?
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Edited: 06/20/2019 at 11:49 AM by all3
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06/21/2019 04:51 AM
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RiddleMe
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Originally posted by: all3
Do you think it's ok to kill civilians because our drone got shot down?
your question isnt a valid one to ask. we go above and beyond to avoid civilian deaths. you question is better aimed towards iran
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06/21/2019 05:53 AM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: RiddleMe
Originally posted by: all3
Do you think it's ok to kill civilians because our drone got shot down?
your question isnt a valid one to ask. we go above and beyond to avoid civilian deaths. you question is better aimed towards iran
Am I mistaken or weren't they complying with the international agreement they signed? Wasn't Trump the one that tore it up and doubled down on sanctions?
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06/21/2019 05:54 AM
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Cole
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Switch roles and put the US in Iran's place. What would we do?
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06/21/2019 07:34 AM
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RiddleMe
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Originally posted by: Cole
Switch roles and put the US in Iran's place. What would we do?
probably not blow up tankers as a threat to halt 30% of the global oil trade. probably wouldnt shoot down an aircraft in international waters of another nation that could kick the shit out of us in a fight. just a guess
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06/21/2019 07:49 AM
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RiddleMe
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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: RiddleMe
Originally posted by: all3
Do you think it's ok to kill civilians because our drone got shot down?
your question isnt a valid one to ask. we go above and beyond to avoid civilian deaths. you question is better aimed towards iran
Am I mistaken or weren't they complying with the international agreement they signed? Wasn't Trump the one that tore it up and doubled down on sanctions?
ignoring the fact that your question is totally irrelevant to his comment and my reply to him, i will try to answer anyway. yup trump did that. as to iran complying or not, depends who you ask. they said they did, we said they weren't during both obama/trump admins. they did violate the heavy water constraint two inspections in a row, though barely. they did ballistic missile testing in violation. the issue with nuclear propulsion i believe was in violation as well. there were other issues if i recall correctly regarding access and interference. anyway you look at it, it is a clusterfuck that trump made worse
Edited: 06/21/2019 at 07:50 AM by RiddleMe
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06/21/2019 10:52 AM
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worksuxgetsponsered
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ignoring the fact that your question is totally irrelevant to his comment and my reply to him, i will try to answer anyway.
You're either extremely patient or a gluten for punishment...
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06/21/2019 10:59 AM
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all3
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Maybe there are some benefits to having trump listening to Putin
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06/21/2019 04:10 PM
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wbsponger
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Originally posted by: worksuxgetsponsered
ignoring the fact that your question is totally irrelevant to his comment and my reply to him, i will try to answer anyway.
You're either extremely patient or a gluten for punishment...
I'm allergic
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06/22/2019 12:11 PM
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worksuxgetsponsered
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Originally posted by: wbsponger
Originally posted by: worksuxgetsponsered
ignoring the fact that your question is totally irrelevant to his comment and my reply to him, i will try to answer anyway.
You're either extremely patient or a gluten for punishment...[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]
I'm allergic
LMAO...I just noticed that. Victim of public education...
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06/23/2019 03:03 AM
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RiddleMe
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oh, that was good. lmao
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06/21/2019 02:57 PM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: RiddleMe
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: RiddleMe
Originally posted by: all3
Do you think it's ok to kill civilians because our drone got shot down?
your question isnt a valid one to ask. we go above and beyond to avoid civilian deaths. you question is better aimed towards iran
Am I mistaken or weren't they complying with the international agreement they signed? Wasn't Trump the one that tore it up and doubled down on sanctions?
ignoring the fact that your question is totally irrelevant to his comment and my reply to him, i will try to answer anyway. yup trump did that. as to iran complying or not, depends who you ask. they said they did, we said they weren't during both obama/trump admins. they did violate the heavy water constraint two inspections in a row, though barely. they did ballistic missile testing in violation. the issue with nuclear propulsion i believe was in violation as well. there were other issues if i recall correctly regarding access and interference. anyway you look at it, it is a clusterfuck that trump made worse
You defended us and blamed Iran. There are a dozen ways that is wrong, but i'll simply point out that we killed tens of thousands in the conflict with Iraq and a great many of those were innocents, so we are anything but innocent when viewing the big picture of the Middle East.
And no, according to the others who signed onto the nuclear accord, Iran wasn't breaking the agreement. Small infractions, maybe, but as a whole they did as they were told. We bailed and there are consequences to this action.
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Edited: 06/21/2019 at 02:58 PM by Cole
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06/21/2019 04:19 PM
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RiddleMe
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actually cole, i said wait for more information. then when more came available, including some from outside sources, i defended our country because we weren't wagging the dog like some claimed right off the bat. let's not be revisionist here
Edited: 06/21/2019 at 04:20 PM by RiddleMe
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06/24/2019 04:50 AM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: RiddleMe
actually cole, i said wait for more information. then when more came available, including some from outside sources, i defended our country because we weren't wagging the dog like some claimed right off the bat. let's not be revisionist here
Why did Trump warp the reality of his pulling back from a counter attack by the US and why has Trump chosen to do nothing at all? Well, he has done something, he is taking the path of the same failing ideas of diplomatic pressure that Bush did 15 years ago.
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Edited: 06/24/2019 at 04:50 AM by Cole
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06/24/2019 04:52 AM
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Cole
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If chaos and a nuclear Iran are his tactics, then Trump is killing it. Right?
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