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Topic Title: Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"
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Created On: 02/12/2019 06:20 AM
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 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - 3rdworldlover - 02/12/2019 06:20 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - Sniper - 02/12/2019 06:41 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - tpapablo - 02/12/2019 07:03 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - fishkller - 02/12/2019 06:51 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - 3rdworldlover - 02/12/2019 07:37 PM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - RiddleMe - 02/13/2019 03:37 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - dingpatch - 02/13/2019 03:56 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - Sniper - 02/13/2019 05:28 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - johnnyboy - 02/12/2019 06:58 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - fishkller - 02/12/2019 07:50 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - RustyTruck - 02/13/2019 06:47 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - RiddleMe - 02/13/2019 07:01 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - johnnyboy - 02/13/2019 07:02 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - RiddleMe - 02/13/2019 07:10 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - Sniper - 02/13/2019 07:17 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - 3rdworldlover - 02/13/2019 07:29 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - Sniper - 02/13/2019 07:44 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - wbsponger - 02/13/2019 08:18 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - RustyTruck - 02/13/2019 07:52 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - Sniper - 02/13/2019 08:04 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - Sniper - 02/13/2019 08:09 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - 3rdworldlover - 02/13/2019 09:30 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those   - all3 - 02/13/2019 09:50 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - Fish Killer - 02/13/2019 08:07 AM  
 Putin's adviser Surkov to those "who cry about Russian meddling in elections"   - RiddleMe - 02/13/2019 08:22 AM  
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 02/13/2019 07:52 AM
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RustyTruck

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Illegal immigration peaked in 2008. You're being played.

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 02/13/2019 08:04 AM
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Sniper

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I'd like to keep it declining. In fact, I would like it to be 0.

I want us to take all the legal immigrants that we need but our government needs to be in the drivers seat. We need to be able to do what benefits our country, just like every other country does that is worth relocating to. Allowing millions of unskilled, uneducated, people to cross your border whenever they want to is just pure stupidity.
 02/13/2019 08:09 AM
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Sniper

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Just because illiegal immigration started to decline when the economy took a shit doesn't mean that it won't go back up. Also, whether it is declining or not has nothing to do with the fact that thousands of people lost their lives or were sexually assaulted last year that didn't have to be.
 02/13/2019 09:30 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Just because illiegal immigration started to decline when the economy took a shit doesn't mean that it won't go back up. Also, whether it is declining or not has nothing to do with the fact that thousands of people lost their lives or were sexually assaulted last year that didn't have to be.



A recent studyof crime statistics in Texas by the libertarian Cato Institute found that illegal immigrants are far less likely to be arrested or convicted of all crimes, even though they are much less likely to have access to legal representation. The conviction rate for all crimes was 50% of native-born Americans. Similar statistics are published in other studies.

Based on facts and statistics, increasing immigration, even illegal immigrantion, would lower the crime rates in the USA.

Further, the rate of immigration as a percentage of US population over the last decade is about the same or lower than the average for the last century.

Find another justification for the immigration "crisis."
 02/13/2019 09:50 AM
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all3

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Originally posted by: Sniper Just because illiegal immigration started to decline when the economy took a shit doesn't mean that it won't go back up. Also, whether it is declining or not has nothing to do with the fact that thousands of people lost their lives or were sexually assaulted last year that didn't have to be.
So how is building a wall going to help with the opioid crisis? And a president who says just grab em by the pussy going to help with reducing sexual assualt

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 02/13/2019 08:07 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Illegal immigration peaked in 2008. You're being played.


Well thats a bald faced lie as accurate data hasn't been available since 2006.

"Between 10.7 and 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the U.S. as of 2016, the most recent year for which data is available."

AND...asylum seekers and those waiting for a court date (and disappear) arent counted.



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Edited: 02/13/2019 at 08:08 AM by Fish Killer
 02/13/2019 08:22 AM
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RiddleMe

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Illegal immigration peaked in 2008.
obama's stance on illegal immigration helped with that, not to mention the 600m boost he provided in 2010. of course there are other reasons for that too, like economy as was mentioned. border security isnt an issue just for trump voters. plenty of non progressive democrats want it too, just via different methodology

Edited: 02/13/2019 at 08:24 AM by RiddleMe
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