Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Yeah, just forget about a very aggressive and highly contagious variant while living life as usual in FL and resisting any and all efforts to get it under control...

Ah, you bring up another question everybody should be asking.....how to do they know all these "new" cases are the "new" variant when they don't even test for specific variants to begin with? NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!? Its almost like they'll tell us anything to make sure we get the jab. I mean, according to our government, the very first thing we should do if we know a hurricane is coming is to get vaccinated....EL-OH-EL... But again, want the stab, go for it, its your choice.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

You just make things up as you go, huh...

Just released an hour ago:
The Delta variant is detected in 99% of U.S. cases, according to C.D.C.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

Edited: 09/20/2021 at 11:04 AM by HAPDigital

I making it up? You have two choices right now, 1. believe what they say at face value, which is fine...."trust the experts". Or, 2. ask "How do they know that?" and dig deeper. Do you know of one single person, who tested positive, that was shown the results of the test for which variant they have? Go ahead and search "How does the CDC know what percentage is the Delta variant" and get back to me.....I'll give you a hint "No one is being diagnosed with the delta variant, or any other variant. Routine tests that individuals receive to determine whether they have COVID-19 do not reveal whether the disease was caused by the delta variant." So how do they come up with that number? There are ways to test the variants (via genome sequencing), do you think they're doing that to every positive case to come up with 99%? "Political science" is taking on a whole new definition.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

OK you got me. I'll believe you over the CDC. Can I give my vaccines back?

Look, its not about "getting you" or "winning the argument". Its about getting people to at least question the narrative. Questioning leads to research, and you forming your own opinion. In the case of vaccines, everyone is different as has their own reasons for choosing to not vaccinate. Whether you agree with them or not. Like I said in the original post, forcing someone to partake in something YOU think is the answer or to placate YOUR OWN SENSE OF FEAR, IS FUCKING PATHETIC. ("You" is used generally and not directed at you personaly). Also, the Government forcing anyone to do anything against their will, is the fucking definition of tyranny. Don't you people get that!?! All throughout history tyranny was welcomed under the guise of safety and/or fear. Stop fucking welcoming it.......

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Edited: 09/21/2021 at 12:42 PM by OBX

These people questioning the narrative? Really? Ain't going to happen. If they didn't have the narrative, they'd have no ability to even discuss these topics. These aren't thinking animals.

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Thus the term...."useful idiots". I mean, on one hand they complain about the "rich getting richer while the poor get poorer", yet their views/opinions are literally in lockstep with every major corporation, media outlet, Hollywood, and World Governments and will even sacrifice their own rights in the name of the narrative. They sure are useful to those they are against....without even understanding it. Idiots......

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

You two are so cute

You'll show the world! Get out there and grab it by the pussy haha



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Hi. I'm Mike.

I wouldn't call them useful idiots. Useless idiots is the more apt description.

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Thus the term...."useful idiots". I mean, on one hand they complain about the "rich getting richer while the poor get poorer", yet their views/opinions are literally in lockstep with every major corporation, media outlet, Hollywood, and World Governments and will even sacrifice their own rights in the name of the narrative. They sure are useful to those they are against....without even understanding it. Idiots......


Says the guy that religiously voted for Trump, with Trump being one of the biggest corporate whores in the world.

Do you think these guys spin in circles before they type? I mean, there has to be some explanation for their disoriented blathering.

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Every major corporation eh? Who did Trump tap to head DOE? Commerce? Treasury? EPA? and on and on???

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You are supporting someone that believes that vaccines make people infectious.

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CDC Variant Tracking Methods Here's how Washington State is doing it.

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Edited: 09/20/2021 at 01:00 PM by scombrid

Since Biden's idiotic speech on vaccination, less people are getting vaccinated than they were before. I guess that people are less likely to follow the ravings of a senile fool than they did in the good, old days. Only progs seem susceptible to that anymore.

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More than 775,000 per day.

369 million in total as of September 20th.

I love the way you try to blame Biden for your fear of getting the vaccine. Project much?


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Here is how they know what variant proportions are in the population. No your individual test isn't likely to be sequenced.

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Variant tracking. OBX says 'they' don't do this though.

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Per NPR reporting of FDA and CDC data this morning. Pfizer is still ~70 to 80 percent effective at 6 months and Moderna is still better than 90% effective.

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He's talking about the MU variant and apparently it's resistant to all vaccines, stay with us

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

Edited: 09/20/2021 at 02:09 PM by Lunchmeat

He said "they" don't do variant testing so how do you know?

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I asked my primary care physician how someone knows if they have one of the variants and he said that you don't know because no one is testing for it.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Hospital test for it.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...s-variants/5407334001/

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Only half the population is vaccinated at the start of the Delta spread. They represent >90% of the hospitalized covid cases and deaths. The spread coincided with CDC guidance saying that vaccinated people didn't need to mask in the presence of other vaccinated people. Suddenly nobody had masks in stores, at work, etc... So people got really careless. Maybe you can explain why the only counties with >100 daily new cases per 100,000 residents are the counties with the lowest vaccination rates? Or explain why every hospital system that is going into crisis care mode is begging the populations in their service areas to get vaccinated? I don't need propaganda to know that someone that refuses to deal in population level rates is wrong. I don't need propaganda to tell me that Ivermectin is not passing clinical muster as a therapeutic or a preventive. There was an in vitro study where huge cellular concentrations of the stuff inhibited viral replication. The problem is that the dose required to get that concentration in a whole person would likely be very harmful to the recipient. The safe doses of ivermectin aren't touching covid.

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This vaccine was not designed to give 100% immunity from the virus, rather it's goal - through either antibodies or memory cells depending - is to prevent serious effects of the disease. So yes vaccinated people can get the virus and for a very short period of time shed AKA spread it, which yes is occurring now and of course magnified by society's change in behavior. That's the whole point of heard immunity: if we're all vaxed the virus kinda loses its hosts as yeah we can be infected but the window to spread is very minimal so it just doesn't really spread but but but if there is unvaxed people in the equation not only do they get ill and fill up ICU beds but they shed for a longgggg time like 2 weeks depending on viral load. So that's the point: if we're all vaxed think each person that has it just passes to one days worth of contacts, but if not each person that has it passes to 14 days... If you understand maths, compare the graph of Y = X with Y = exponential of 14x...

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

Edited: 09/20/2021 at 08:23 PM by surferclimber

Wish everyone here could respond like this, good post

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

I'm sure you'd like people to hold your hand and go out of their way to slowly explain and walk you through everything in life

But this is old, obvious news that has been explained to dullards over and over both here and everywhere else ad nauseam.

To be supplying you with "posts like this" at this late point in the game is not our problem, responsibility or interest.

If you're not with it by now, you've pretty much missed the train and it's not worth expending any energy on you other than to entertain ourselves.

so best of luck with your NSR post reviews LOL





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Yet, you pull stinky salami from your dirty lunchbox and say that the fact that Dr. Fauci and his wiFe happen to both be professionals in the same US Government administration is a wicked and obvious direct line to the introduction of Covid to the USA.

Yeah, dude, I wish Datardism would go away.

Or maybe most people that are vaxxed maintain proper social distance and wear masks and are not the ones passing covid around, the unvaxxed that are not doing so are spreading it. Seems more likely.

. Aye, there's the rub.

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BULLSHIT.

The actual facts prove otherwise.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Ding!!!!! Did anyone who received the vaccination also receive instructions to self quarantine after both doses (or any for that matter)? Could it possibly be that its BOTH the Vaccinated people are spreading AND behavioral? Problem with your last statement about "herd immunity" is you are assuming that only humans are a viable host. Unfortunately, they are not, and therefore COVID is never going away.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Why would that be reasonable? The vaccine doesn't make someone infectious. The vaccine mimics the virus and stimulates the production of antibodies. You can't catch a virus from somebody's antibodies.

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Scom, you are wrong. When initially vaccinated, you can spread it. Look it up. Love the responses from the rest of the clowns....just keep proving the point of how idiotic you all are. Classic

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

You spread it after receiving the vaccine only if you actually have Covid, not because you got the vaccination.

Search something like "are you contagious after getting the covid vaccine".

"The authorized vaccines do not contain the Covid-19 virus, and you cannot develop Covid-19 from the vaccines. Therefore, the vaccines cannot make you contagious with Covid-19 to anyone you come into contact with.

But it does take time for the vaccines to reach their full protection effects. It's possible to be separately infected with the virus just before or just after vaccination and get sick.

That's why wearing masks, social distancing, practicing hand hygiene and avoiding large gatherings remain essential after getting vaccinated."


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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

^yep^. No way to get Covid, the virus, from the US vaccines. This is exactly the problem of misinformation.

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I will provide the more crass version: For fuck's sake.



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What's the end game with vaccines? How did the Spanish flu end?

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Ring...BOOM...snow. -Hatrick Penry

What's the end game with vaccines?

The first is to keep people alive, the second is to keep them out of the hospital.

Millions died from the Bird Flu, so I don't get your point. That's not really a statistic we care to match while attempting to reach herd immunity.

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And what does herd immunity mean? What is the number or end game in that regard?

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Ring...BOOM...snow. -Hatrick Penry

It might mean nothing as far as a Coronavirus is concerned. That's the problem.

The dream scenario would be a new variant that is easier to catch, but doesn't make you sick. That would provide the antibodies without the consequences. Or maybe not. only time will tell.








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Edited: 09/22/2021 at 06:17 AM by Cole

Maybe we should consult with a "pure blood" to get the answer.

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Edited: 09/22/2021 at 06:13 AM by scombrid

Must also be a good pick up line.

"Hey, wanna mate with a 'pure blood'?"

No. Why? What assumption leads you to ask that question?

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