 09/20/2021 08:01 PM
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surferclimber
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Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
This vaccine was not designed to give 100% immunity from the virus, rather it's goal - through either antibodies or memory cells depending - is to prevent serious effects of the disease. So yes vaccinated people can get the virus and for a very short period of time shed AKA spread it, which yes is occurring now and of course magnified by society's change in behavior.
That's the whole point of heard immunity: if we're all vaxed the virus kinda loses its hosts as yeah we can be infected but the window to spread is very minimal so it just doesn't really spread but but but if there is unvaxed people in the equation not only do they get ill and fill up ICU beds but they shed for a longgggg time like 2 weeks depending on viral load. So that's the point: if we're all vaxed think each person that has it just passes to one days worth of contacts, but if not each person that has it passes to 14 days... If you understand maths, compare the graph of Y = X with Y = exponential of 14x...
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Edited: 09/20/2021 at 08:23 PM by surferclimber
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09/20/2021 08:32 PM
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Lunchmeat
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Originally posted by: surferclimber
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
This vaccine was not designed to give 100% immunity from the virus, rather it's goal - through either antibodies or memory cells depending - is to prevent serious effects of the disease. So yes vaccinated people can get the virus and for a very short period of time shed AKA spread it, which yes is occurring now and of course magnified by society's change in behavior.
That's the whole point of heard immunity: if we're all vaxed the virus kinda loses its hosts as yeah we can be infected but the window to spread is very minimal so it just doesn't really spread but but but if there is unvaxed people in the equation not only do they get ill and fill up ICU beds but they shed for a longgggg time like 2 weeks depending on viral load. So that's the point: if we're all vaxed think each person that has it just passes to one days worth of contacts, but if not each person that has it passes to 14 days... If you understand maths, compare the graph of Y = X with Y = exponential of 14x...
Wish everyone here could respond like this, good post
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09/20/2021 10:01 PM
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1974
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I'm sure you'd like people to hold your hand and go out of their way to slowly explain and walk you through everything in life
But this is old, obvious news that has been explained to dullards over and over both here and everywhere else ad nauseam.
To be supplying you with "posts like this" at this late point in the game is not our problem, responsibility or interest.
If you're not with it by now, you've pretty much missed the train and it's not worth expending any energy on you other than to entertain ourselves.
so best of luck with your NSR post reviews LOL
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09/20/2021 10:06 PM
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follydude
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Originally posted by: Lunchmeat
Originally posted by: surferclimber
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
This vaccine was not designed to give 100% immunity from the virus, rather it's goal - through either antibodies or memory cells depending - is to prevent serious effects of the disease. So yes vaccinated people can get the virus and for a very short period of time shed AKA spread it, which yes is occurring now and of course magnified by society's change in behavior.
That's the whole point of heard immunity: if we're all vaxed the virus kinda loses its hosts as yeah we can be infected but the window to spread is very minimal so it just doesn't really spread but but but if there is unvaxed people in the equation not only do they get ill and fill up ICU beds but they shed for a longgggg time like 2 weeks depending on viral load. So that's the point: if we're all vaxed think each person that has it just passes to one days worth of contacts, but if not each person that has it passes to 14 days... If you understand maths, compare the graph of Y = X with Y = exponential of 14x...
Wish everyone here could respond like this, good post
Yet, you pull stinky salami from your dirty lunchbox and say that the fact that Dr. Fauci and his wiFe happen to both be professionals in the same US Government administration is a wicked and obvious direct line to the introduction of Covid to the USA.
Yeah, dude, I wish Datardism would go away.
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09/20/2021 11:25 PM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: surferclimber
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
This vaccine was not designed to give 100% immunity from the virus, rather it's goal - through either antibodies or memory cells depending - is to prevent serious effects of the disease. So yes vaccinated people can get the virus and for a very short period of time shed AKA spread it, which yes is occurring now and of course magnified by society's change in behavior.
That's the whole point of heard immunity: if we're all vaxed the virus kinda loses its hosts as yeah we can be infected but the window to spread is very minimal so it just doesn't really spread but but but if there is unvaxed people in the equation not only do they get ill and fill up ICU beds but they shed for a longgggg time like 2 weeks depending on viral load. So that's the point: if we're all vaxed think each person that has it just passes to one days worth of contacts, but if not each person that has it passes to 14 days... If you understand maths, compare the graph of Y = X with Y = exponential of 14x...
Or maybe most people that are vaxxed maintain proper social distance and wear masks and are not the ones passing covid around, the unvaxxed that are not doing so are spreading it. Seems more likely.
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09/21/2021 02:56 AM
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tom
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If you understand maths, . Aye, there's the rub. 
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09/21/2021 04:39 AM
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Fish Killer
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: surferclimber
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
This vaccine was not designed to give 100% immunity from the virus, rather it's goal - through either antibodies or memory cells depending - is to prevent serious effects of the disease. So yes vaccinated people can get the virus and for a very short period of time shed AKA spread it, which yes is occurring now and of course magnified by society's change in behavior.
That's the whole point of heard immunity: if we're all vaxed the virus kinda loses its hosts as yeah we can be infected but the window to spread is very minimal so it just doesn't really spread but but but if there is unvaxed people in the equation not only do they get ill and fill up ICU beds but they shed for a longgggg time like 2 weeks depending on viral load. So that's the point: if we're all vaxed think each person that has it just passes to one days worth of contacts, but if not each person that has it passes to 14 days... If you understand maths, compare the graph of Y = X with Y = exponential of 14x...
Or maybe most people that are vaxxed maintain proper social distance and wear masks and are not the ones passing covid around, the unvaxxed that are not doing so are spreading it. Seems more likely.
BULLSHIT.
The actual facts prove otherwise.
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09/21/2021 12:56 PM
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OBX
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Originally posted by: surferclimber
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
This vaccine was not designed to give 100% immunity from the virus, rather it's goal - through either antibodies or memory cells depending - is to prevent serious effects of the disease. So yes vaccinated people can get the virus and for a very short period of time shed AKA spread it, which yes is occurring now and of course magnified by society's change in behavior.
That's the whole point of heard immunity: if we're all vaxed the virus kinda loses its hosts as yeah we can be infected but the window to spread is very minimal so it just doesn't really spread but but but if there is unvaxed people in the equation not only do they get ill and fill up ICU beds but they shed for a longgggg time like 2 weeks depending on viral load. So that's the point: if we're all vaxed think each person that has it just passes to one days worth of contacts, but if not each person that has it passes to 14 days... If you understand maths, compare the graph of Y = X with Y = exponential of 14x...
Ding!!!!! Did anyone who received the vaccination also receive instructions to self quarantine after both doses (or any for that matter)? Could it possibly be that its BOTH the Vaccinated people are spreading AND behavioral? Problem with your last statement about "herd immunity" is you are assuming that only humans are a viable host. Unfortunately, they are not, and therefore COVID is never going away.
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09/21/2021 04:10 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: OBX
Ding!!!!! Did anyone who received the vaccination also receive instructions to self quarantine after both doses (or any for that matter)?.
Why would that be reasonable? The vaccine doesn't make someone infectious. The vaccine mimics the virus and stimulates the production of antibodies. You can't catch a virus from somebody's antibodies.
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09/22/2021 04:17 AM
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OBX
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: OBX
Ding!!!!! Did anyone who received the vaccination also receive instructions to self quarantine after both doses (or any for that matter)?.
Why would that be reasonable? The vaccine doesn't make someone infectious. The vaccine mimics the virus and stimulates the production of antibodies. You can't catch a virus from somebody's antibodies.
Scom, you are wrong. When initially vaccinated, you can spread it. Look it up.
Love the responses from the rest of the clowns....just keep proving the point of how idiotic you all are. Classic
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09/22/2021 04:29 AM
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Bamboo
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You spread it after receiving the vaccine only if you actually have Covid, not because you got the vaccination.
Search something like "are you contagious after getting the covid vaccine".
"The authorized vaccines do not contain the Covid-19 virus, and you cannot develop Covid-19 from the vaccines. Therefore, the vaccines cannot make you contagious with Covid-19 to anyone you come into contact with.
But it does take time for the vaccines to reach their full protection effects. It's possible to be separately infected with the virus just before or just after vaccination and get sick.
That's why wearing masks, social distancing, practicing hand hygiene and avoiding large gatherings remain essential after getting vaccinated."
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09/22/2021 05:33 AM
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tom
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^yep^. No way to get Covid, the virus, from the US vaccines. This is exactly the problem of misinformation. 
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09/22/2021 05:40 AM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: tom
^yep^. No way to get Covid, the virus, from the US vaccines. This is exactly the problem of misinformation. ![]()
I will provide the more crass version: For fuck's sake.
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09/22/2021 05:52 AM
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moosejaw
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What's the end game with vaccines?
How did the Spanish flu end?
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09/22/2021 06:00 AM
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Cole
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What's the end game with vaccines?
The first is to keep people alive, the second is to keep them out of the hospital.
Millions died from the Bird Flu, so I don't get your point. That's not really a statistic we care to match while attempting to reach herd immunity.
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09/22/2021 06:08 AM
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moosejaw
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And what does herd immunity mean? What is the number or end game in that regard?
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09/22/2021 06:12 AM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: moosejaw
And what does herd immunity mean? What is the number or end game in that regard?
It might mean nothing as far as a Coronavirus is concerned. That's the problem.
The dream scenario would be a new variant that is easier to catch, but doesn't make you sick. That would provide the antibodies without the consequences. Or maybe not. only time will tell.
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Edited: 09/22/2021 at 06:17 AM by Cole
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09/22/2021 06:12 AM
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scombrid
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Maybe we should consult with a "pure blood" to get the answer.
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09/22/2021 06:53 AM
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seaspray
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Must also be a good pick up line.
"Hey, wanna mate with a 'pure blood'?"
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09/22/2021 11:18 AM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: OBX
Did anyone who received the vaccination also receive instructions to self quarantine after both doses (or any for that matter)?
No. Why? What assumption leads you to ask that question?
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