 09/20/2021 10:53 AM
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OBX
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
Yeah, just forget about a very aggressive and highly contagious variant while living life as usual in FL and resisting any and all efforts to get it under control...
Ah, you bring up another question everybody should be asking.....how to do they know all these "new" cases are the "new" variant when they don't even test for specific variants to begin with? NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!? Its almost like they'll tell us anything to make sure we get the jab. I mean, according to our government, the very first thing we should do if we know a hurricane is coming is to get vaccinated....EL-OH-EL... But again, want the stab, go for it, its your choice.
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09/20/2021 11:03 AM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
Yeah, just forget about a very aggressive and highly contagious variant while living life as usual in FL and resisting any and all efforts to get it under control...
Ah, you bring up another question everybody should be asking.....how to do they know all these "new" cases are the "new" variant when they don't even test for specific variants to begin with? NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!? Its almost like they'll tell us anything to make sure we get the jab. I mean, according to our government, the very first thing we should do if we know a hurricane is coming is to get vaccinated....EL-OH-EL... But again, want the stab, go for it, its your choice.
You just make things up as you go, huh...
Just released an hour ago:
The Delta variant is detected in 99% of U.S. cases, according to C.D.C.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
Edited: 09/20/2021 at 11:04 AM by HAPDigital
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09/20/2021 12:17 PM
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OBX
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
Yeah, just forget about a very aggressive and highly contagious variant while living life as usual in FL and resisting any and all efforts to get it under control...
Ah, you bring up another question everybody should be asking.....how to do they know all these "new" cases are the "new" variant when they don't even test for specific variants to begin with? NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!? Its almost like they'll tell us anything to make sure we get the jab. I mean, according to our government, the very first thing we should do if we know a hurricane is coming is to get vaccinated....EL-OH-EL... But again, want the stab, go for it, its your choice.
You just make things up as you go, huh...
Just released an hour ago:
The Delta variant is detected in 99% of U.S. cases, according to C.D.C.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
I making it up? You have two choices right now, 1. believe what they say at face value, which is fine...."trust the experts". Or, 2. ask "How do they know that?" and dig deeper. Do you know of one single person, who tested positive, that was shown the results of the test for which variant they have? Go ahead and search "How does the CDC know what percentage is the Delta variant" and get back to me.....I'll give you a hint "No one is being diagnosed with the delta variant, or any other variant. Routine tests that individuals receive to determine whether they have COVID-19 do not reveal whether the disease was caused by the delta variant." So how do they come up with that number? There are ways to test the variants (via genome sequencing), do you think they're doing that to every positive case to come up with 99%? "Political science" is taking on a whole new definition.
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09/20/2021 02:42 PM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
Yeah, just forget about a very aggressive and highly contagious variant while living life as usual in FL and resisting any and all efforts to get it under control...
Ah, you bring up another question everybody should be asking.....how to do they know all these "new" cases are the "new" variant when they don't even test for specific variants to begin with? NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!? Its almost like they'll tell us anything to make sure we get the jab. I mean, according to our government, the very first thing we should do if we know a hurricane is coming is to get vaccinated....EL-OH-EL... But again, want the stab, go for it, its your choice.
You just make things up as you go, huh...
Just released an hour ago:
The Delta variant is detected in 99% of U.S. cases, according to C.D.C.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
I making it up? You have two choices right now, 1. believe what they say at face value, which is fine...."trust the experts". Or, 2. ask "How do they know that?" and dig deeper. Do you know of one single person, who tested positive, that was shown the results of the test for which variant they have? Go ahead and search "How does the CDC know what percentage is the Delta variant" and get back to me.....I'll give you a hint "No one is being diagnosed with the delta variant, or any other variant. Routine tests that individuals receive to determine whether they have COVID-19 do not reveal whether the disease was caused by the delta variant." So how do they come up with that number? There are ways to test the variants (via genome sequencing), do you think they're doing that to every positive case to come up with 99%? "Political science" is taking on a whole new definition.
OK you got me. I'll believe you over the CDC. Can I give my vaccines back?
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09/21/2021 12:41 PM
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OBX
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Florida has a higher infection rate this year, with more people vaccinated, then last year when no one vaccinated. FACT. Scom would say its because of "behaviors," Could be, except Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. So I don't think that would attribute to such an increase. If we were pure about this, we would admit that the only major variable this time around is the introduction of the "vaccine." I'm not saying 100% it is the cause, certainly is plausible though. However, you all seem to be 100% its not the cause.....the only reason one could come to such certainty and/or dismiss the plausible scenario without even entertaining the thought, is nothing but a result of propaganda driven bigotry. Keep on swallowing the narrative....without question. This way you can sneer at those that do, applaud the censorship of the dissent, and be the useful idiot.
Yeah, just forget about a very aggressive and highly contagious variant while living life as usual in FL and resisting any and all efforts to get it under control...
Ah, you bring up another question everybody should be asking.....how to do they know all these "new" cases are the "new" variant when they don't even test for specific variants to begin with? NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!? Its almost like they'll tell us anything to make sure we get the jab. I mean, according to our government, the very first thing we should do if we know a hurricane is coming is to get vaccinated....EL-OH-EL... But again, want the stab, go for it, its your choice.
You just make things up as you go, huh...
Just released an hour ago:
The Delta variant is detected in 99% of U.S. cases, according to C.D.C.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
I making it up? You have two choices right now, 1. believe what they say at face value, which is fine...."trust the experts". Or, 2. ask "How do they know that?" and dig deeper. Do you know of one single person, who tested positive, that was shown the results of the test for which variant they have? Go ahead and search "How does the CDC know what percentage is the Delta variant" and get back to me.....I'll give you a hint "No one is being diagnosed with the delta variant, or any other variant. Routine tests that individuals receive to determine whether they have COVID-19 do not reveal whether the disease was caused by the delta variant." So how do they come up with that number? There are ways to test the variants (via genome sequencing), do you think they're doing that to every positive case to come up with 99%? "Political science" is taking on a whole new definition.
OK you got me. I'll believe you over the CDC. Can I give my vaccines back?
Look, its not about "getting you" or "winning the argument". Its about getting people to at least question the narrative. Questioning leads to research, and you forming your own opinion. In the case of vaccines, everyone is different as has their own reasons for choosing to not vaccinate. Whether you agree with them or not. Like I said in the original post, forcing someone to partake in something YOU think is the answer or to placate YOUR OWN SENSE OF FEAR, IS FUCKING PATHETIC. ("You" is used generally and not directed at you personaly). Also, the Government forcing anyone to do anything against their will, is the fucking definition of tyranny. Don't you people get that!?! All throughout history tyranny was welcomed under the guise of safety and/or fear. Stop fucking welcoming it.......
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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain
Edited: 09/21/2021 at 12:42 PM by OBX
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09/21/2021 12:59 PM
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tpapablo
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Look, its not about "getting you" or "winning the argument". Its about getting people to at least question the narrative. Questioning leads to research, and you forming your own opinion. In the case of vaccines, everyone is different as has their own reasons for choosing to not vaccinate. Whether you agree with them or not. Like I said in the original post, forcing someone to partake in something YOU think is the answer or to placate YOUR OWN SENSE OF FEAR, IS FUCKING PATHETIC. ("You" is used generally and not directed at you personaly). Also, the Government forcing anyone to do anything against their will, is the fucking definition of tyranny. Don't you people get that!?! All throughout history tyranny was welcomed under the guise of safety and/or fear. Stop fucking welcoming it.......
These people questioning the narrative? Really? Ain't going to happen. If they didn't have the narrative, they'd have no ability to even discuss these topics. These aren't thinking animals.
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09/21/2021 01:06 PM
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OBX
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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Look, its not about "getting you" or "winning the argument". Its about getting people to at least question the narrative. Questioning leads to research, and you forming your own opinion. In the case of vaccines, everyone is different as has their own reasons for choosing to not vaccinate. Whether you agree with them or not. Like I said in the original post, forcing someone to partake in something YOU think is the answer or to placate YOUR OWN SENSE OF FEAR, IS FUCKING PATHETIC. ("You" is used generally and not directed at you personaly). Also, the Government forcing anyone to do anything against their will, is the fucking definition of tyranny. Don't you people get that!?! All throughout history tyranny was welcomed under the guise of safety and/or fear. Stop fucking welcoming it.......
These people questioning the narrative? Really? Ain't going to happen. If they didn't have the narrative, they'd have no ability to even discuss these topics. These aren't thinking animals.
Thus the term...."useful idiots". I mean, on one hand they complain about the "rich getting richer while the poor get poorer", yet their views/opinions are literally in lockstep with every major corporation, media outlet, Hollywood, and World Governments and will even sacrifice their own rights in the name of the narrative. They sure are useful to those they are against....without even understanding it. Idiots......
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09/21/2021 01:10 PM
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You two are so cute 
You'll show the world! Get out there and grab it by the pussy haha
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09/21/2021 01:14 PM
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tpapablo
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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: tpapablo
Look, its not about "getting you" or "winning the argument". Its about getting people to at least question the narrative. Questioning leads to research, and you forming your own opinion. In the case of vaccines, everyone is different as has their own reasons for choosing to not vaccinate. Whether you agree with them or not. Like I said in the original post, forcing someone to partake in something YOU think is the answer or to placate YOUR OWN SENSE OF FEAR, IS FUCKING PATHETIC. ("You" is used generally and not directed at you personaly). Also, the Government forcing anyone to do anything against their will, is the fucking definition of tyranny. Don't you people get that!?! All throughout history tyranny was welcomed under the guise of safety and/or fear. Stop fucking welcoming it.......
These people questioning the narrative? Really? Ain't going to happen. If they didn't have the narrative, they'd have no ability to even discuss these topics. These aren't thinking animals.
Thus the term...."useful idiots". I mean, on one hand they complain about the "rich getting richer while the poor get poorer", yet their views/opinions are literally in lockstep with every major corporation, media outlet, Hollywood, and World Governments and will even sacrifice their own rights in the name of the narrative. They sure are useful to those they are against....without even understanding it. Idiots......
I wouldn't call them useful idiots. Useless idiots is the more apt description.
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09/21/2021 07:13 PM
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Cole
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Thus the term...."useful idiots". I mean, on one hand they complain about the "rich getting richer while the poor get poorer", yet their views/opinions are literally in lockstep with every major corporation, media outlet, Hollywood, and World Governments and will even sacrifice their own rights in the name of the narrative. They sure are useful to those they are against....without even understanding it. Idiots......
Says the guy that religiously voted for Trump, with Trump being one of the biggest corporate whores in the world.
Do you think these guys spin in circles before they type? I mean, there has to be some explanation for their disoriented blathering.
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09/21/2021 04:11 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: tpapablo
Look, its not about "getting you" or "winning the argument". Its about getting people to at least question the narrative. Questioning leads to research, and you forming your own opinion. In the case of vaccines, everyone is different as has their own reasons for choosing to not vaccinate. Whether you agree with them or not. Like I said in the original post, forcing someone to partake in something YOU think is the answer or to placate YOUR OWN SENSE OF FEAR, IS FUCKING PATHETIC. ("You" is used generally and not directed at you personaly). Also, the Government forcing anyone to do anything against their will, is the fucking definition of tyranny. Don't you people get that!?! All throughout history tyranny was welcomed under the guise of safety and/or fear. Stop fucking welcoming it.......
These people questioning the narrative? Really? Ain't going to happen. If they didn't have the narrative, they'd have no ability to even discuss these topics. These aren't thinking animals.
Thus the term...."useful idiots". I mean, on one hand they complain about the "rich getting richer while the poor get poorer", yet their views/opinions are literally in lockstep with every major corporation, media outlet, Hollywood, and World Governments and will even sacrifice their own rights in the name of the narrative. They sure are useful to those they are against....without even understanding it. Idiots......
Every major corporation eh? Who did Trump tap to head DOE? Commerce? Treasury? EPA? and on and on???
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09/21/2021 04:12 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Look, its not about "getting you" or "winning the argument". Its about getting people to at least question the narrative. Questioning leads to research, and you forming your own opinion. In the case of vaccines, everyone is different as has their own reasons for choosing to not vaccinate. Whether you agree with them or not. Like I said in the original post, forcing someone to partake in something YOU think is the answer or to placate YOUR OWN SENSE OF FEAR, IS FUCKING PATHETIC. ("You" is used generally and not directed at you personaly). Also, the Government forcing anyone to do anything against their will, is the fucking definition of tyranny. Don't you people get that!?! All throughout history tyranny was welcomed under the guise of safety and/or fear. Stop fucking welcoming it.......
These people questioning the narrative? Really? Ain't going to happen. If they didn't have the narrative, they'd have no ability to even discuss these topics. These aren't thinking animals.
You are supporting someone that believes that vaccines make people infectious.
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09/20/2021 01:00 PM
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scombrid
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CDC Variant Tracking Methods
Here's how Washington State is doing it.
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09/20/2021 01:26 PM
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tpapablo
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Since Biden's idiotic speech on vaccination, less people are getting vaccinated than they were before. I guess that people are less likely to follow the ravings of a senile fool than they did in the good, old days. Only progs seem susceptible to that anymore.
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09/21/2021 05:37 AM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Since Biden's idiotic speech on vaccination, less people are getting vaccinated than they were before. I guess that people are less likely to follow the ravings of a senile fool than they did in the good, old days. Only progs seem susceptible to that anymore.
More than 775,000 per day.
369 million in total as of September 20th.
I love the way you try to blame Biden for your fear of getting the vaccine. Project much?
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09/21/2021 06:03 AM
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scombrid
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Here is how they know what variant proportions are in the population. No your individual test isn't likely to be sequenced.
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09/22/2021 11:15 AM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Here is how they know what variant proportions are in the population. No your individual test isn't likely to be sequenced.
Variant tracking. OBX says 'they' don't do this though.
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09/20/2021 12:48 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: OBX
NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!?
Per NPR reporting of FDA and CDC data this morning. Pfizer is still ~70 to 80 percent effective at 6 months and Moderna is still better than 90% effective.
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09/20/2021 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: OBX
NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!?
Per NPR reporting of FDA and CDC data this morning. Pfizer is still ~70 to 80 percent effective at 6 months and Moderna is still better than 90% effective.
He's talking about the MU variant and apparently it's resistant to all vaccines, stay with us
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09/20/2021 02:43 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: Lunchmeat
Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: OBX
NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!?
Per NPR reporting of FDA and CDC data this morning. Pfizer is still ~70 to 80 percent effective at 6 months and Moderna is still better than 90% effective.
He's talking about the MU variant and apparently it's resistant to all vaccines, stay with us
He said "they" don't do variant testing so how do you know?
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09/21/2021 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: Lunchmeat
Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: OBX
NO ONE FINDS IT WEIRD THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD THIS NEW VARIANT IS MORE DEADLY, CONTAGIOUS, AND THOSE VACCINATED ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN DO/REPORT VARIANT TESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?!?
Per NPR reporting of FDA and CDC data this morning. Pfizer is still ~70 to 80 percent effective at 6 months and Moderna is still better than 90% effective.
He's talking about the MU variant and apparently it's resistant to all vaccines, stay with us
He said "they" don't do variant testing so how do you know?
I asked my primary care physician how someone knows if they have one of the variants and he said that you don't know because no one is testing for it.
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09/21/2021 05:53 AM
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Hospital test for it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...s-variants/5407334001/
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